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The road it sounds like you were on is Batsto- Godfrey bridge Road.It starts as blacktop but that veers right and heads to Tylertown/Bulltown and Godfreys bridge road heads straight off the bend ,straight as an arrow for maybe five miles to Washington and then starts zigzagging the last two...

You are not that far from a house at the ruins.If you walk behind the ruins and look through the woods to the left you can make out a field that has a house at the far left side of it.if you heard noise coming from the south it may have been at this house.

Are you sure the children weren't in the tunnels beneath the ruins?I"ve crawled around in them myself.

They appear to still be serviceable? What are the buildings next to them?

We have a rooster here in Laurel lake that also starts obnoxiously early but he's a half mile down the road and I can't hear him till I actually go outside.far enough away not to bother me but I wonder how the next door neighbors put up with it.

I would assume if she had been in the woods for ten days and wasn't a survival expert she'd be in pretty rough condition.You'd of thought the chiggers would have taken the best of her by now.

I was crawling across bogs on my hands and knees that are normally a pond.First time the mud was ever solid enough to get across.Started out walking but half way across had to drop to all fours.It was so hot I thought about just digging into the mud and staying there till dark but then would had...

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I wear no waist pack,carry a rucksack from time to time.why?

I"m still smarter then my phone but not by much.No internet unless I"m home

Heck even the leaves of the two look the same to me. Anything that isn't a white oak I"ll just call it an oak.I"m not drilling holes into trees to identify em.

Heres a site.Bark looks identical to me.It appears if you dig into blak oak bark with a knife the inner bark is orange. http://treebarkid.com/index.php/white-oak-group

so what do you use to differentiate black from red oaks? The leaves? in which case your left hanging in winter or the bark?White oak bark is easy to identify from the red/black group at a great distance.can red and black be told apart?I"ll google this and see if they have pics of the various bark.

I have gotten them with peremthrin that was a few days old and had been in the woods once already.The pants and socks were not washed but put aside as woods britches.I have never gotten chiggers when the chemical was fresh.I think you have run into a new species called "Super Chiggers"!

I have called northern red oak ,black oak for years and i was informed it was red oak so now I call it red oak.I know the difference between southern and northern red oak but what is the difference between black and red? They look the same to me.If I need a hand lens to tell the difference then...

Looks like we don't have a monopoly on turds. I could almost understand it in a country where folks have nothing, I said almost! But in a country like Canada you know the bastard wasn't starving. Human trash is about what it is.

Dude! your not that far from me! I"m out on disability now but will be going back soon.When I have weekends off I"ll let you know.Hell, living in Gandys Beach the chigs are the least of your problems.The chigs can't get you when your airborne being carried away by Greenheads.

Worst I think I"ve ever seen em Bob.I have only gotten a few here and there but I"ve kept myself sprayed or I have rubber boots on just for the chigs but every time Bill has gone with me He gets covered.One day I gave him my spray and he sprayed himself good but he went to set his recorder on...

I was going by the bark.It looks like Red Oak bark.

Was that big tree a Red Oak? Wonder if they were back there growing fuel for that pipe?