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Tom just saw your PM, I should check these more often. You found yourself a coastal plains milksnake, a rare occurence above ground. I've seen dozens of this species but never once above the surface(not under cover) alive.

I know where the nest is and I don't think it is accessible by trail, at least not close. Its on the east side too.

Jeff, as long as you aren't handling the snakes often it won't be a problem, black rats are quite as sensitive as say a rattlesnake to human prescence.

I was down in deep south jersey today and the amount of these was insane. At points they were flying into my face and I couldn't walk forward without running into them.

I thought maybe it was 'poor tom' it was reminding me off, but I still can't figure it out...whatever it reminds me of is a sound I really like.

Jeff, I went through a bunch of Zeppelin songs after trying to figure out what it reminded me off. I realized it reminded me of alot of Zeppelin songs but like you said the music that influence zep is the what it really is.

Ghost of Barnegat is my favorite. There is a Zeppelin song and I can't put my finger on the exact one, but this song reminds me of it. Jeff nice work, great sounds.

If the plot is right on PA ave, then that is a ashame. That is a nice little stretch right there with some of the pb species in there. My favorite line is it provide lots of construction jobs in the short term. We need to consider some long term things soon, we continue to focus on the short...

Having a hard time figuring out where the development is occurring. Pennsylvania ave has some nice woodlands, hope its not there...it will burry 100's of box turtles.

Ed you found yourself a redbelly snake. The vary alot from gray to brown. I've only seen three of these in the pines and finding one above the surface is get rare.