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No Bob somehow I had missed this post. Yes they had to put the artillery some where and the troops no doubt had selected positions but where? They may not have realized the British had no intention of proceeding further after Chestnuy neck and may have been ready for them.I forget where I read...

I hadnt seen the ones that far away. I stand corrected. I would say yes dunes. On some of those dunes in Mordecai are trenches, some near the road and some not. I could understand borrow trenches along road but further away I’d think the would just dig pits.Yes we definitely need to check them...

I think the LIDAR is better then I could have ever hoped for.I will take tracks files of the trenches and we can overlay them on the LIDAR and maybe get a better idea of what to look for in identifying the trenches on LIDARIf I remember right they were knee to thigh deep and just wide enough to...

Gabe I"d be glad to hit thwe swamp together and settle this.I am now having sunday and mondays off.will have the next five sundays off but in a few weeks will be having saturdays off as well. If the road wasn't built to 1808 then iot definitely wasn't incorporated into breastworks and if the...

I think the plan was to sneak up the Mullica and attack Batsto by night?

More breastwork/entrenchments? https://boydsmaps.com/#16.00/39.628807/-74.605213/lidar2021bw/0.00/0.00

https://boydsmaps.com/#16.00/39.636830/-74.619118/lidar2021bw/0.00/0.00 Matter of fact looks like a breastwork to me encircling this coord to the east of it making a good blocking position approaching batsto from the east or the south (If the swamp was cleared for a field of fire so the British...

Actually this breastwork or ridge is not the road and if I recall what you see here were trenches.The road is south of here and angles se to crowleytown https://boydsmaps.com/#16.00/39.634541/-74.621328/lidar2021bw/0.00/0.00

Brainstorm? Could the road have originally been a breastwork and later this was taken advantage of to make a road out of it? Hmmm??? :)

If the road was no there then the trenches that follow it were not either so Gabe would be right about those trenches,that would not explain however the ones further south where there is no apparent road,unless of course the trenches are older then the road and the road just happened to follow...

Okay have established that the man who built Crowleytown wasn't even born till 1788 so the town was not there.Could the road have followed present 542 on down the river to Tuckerton? or somewhere else on the coast or maybe just went to an old landing on the Mullica near present Crowleytown?the...

One section of trench is visible on 2021 LIDAR https://boydsmaps.com/#16.00/39.636107/-74.630076/lidar2021bw/0.00/0.00 Also where the trenches do follow the road why are they only on the southern side? The road is much bigger and higher then could account for the little bit of sand that...

I am going to plan a trip to Mordecai soon as the weather warms up a bit but before the leaves come out.I"m going to map the trenches and photo them. I remember many of them being quite far south of the road. They were large enough for me tpo get in on my hands and knees and almost deeo enough...

British regulars against iron workers and maybe some militia? Why suicidal?

Ditches in places shaped like redoubts? And some of them are along island edges hundreds of yards from the old road.The Brits were not after cannonball caches but to destroy the source of the cannonballs and cannon forged at Batsto. Many of the ditches are along the islands strung out to the...

I"ve canoed through there and your right it is very shallow but they would have left the ship downstream and rowed their smaller boats up the batsto probably to the forks and then marched up the space between the river which would have protected their flanks

Some entrenchments built by Batsto Patriots for a battle with the British that never happened are out there as well. The British intended to sneak attack batsto by sailing up the Mullica but were caught in the act at Chestnut neck by patriots whom they got into a battle with.The British won that...

This may put all the Maurice River twp boys uit of business. Come to think of it I ain't found no clandestine weed fields in the woods in awhile.

There is a South Millville gun Club on Tuckahoe/Belleplain rd just south of Weatherby rd. Thats not even the same county as Millville.

I like powder for walking in the woods.All you here is swish swish swish,almost silent.Wet snow is great for tracking but once it freezes it turns into this stuff I hate.Obnixiously loud and crunchie.The critters have a hard time getting through it to food.It's just miserable stuff.I call it our...