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But do people take/move/bother the herp or just look at it?

Less helicopter rides for our governor. I am sure that there's plenty of double dipping and inefficiencies that can be found that would free up a few thousand dollars for guard rails. Are the herpers actually taking the animals or do they just want to see them?

In your opinion, what's the best way of making that happen?

It's not just WSF. New Jersey as a whole is awful at historic preservation. A lot of that is because very few people in NJ care about history. As much as I loathe the PPA I don't know what they could/would do to help. Pine Barrens history has largely been an area that they've ignored, and are...

It's just so sad to see how much we've lost over such a short time. Plus, if there ever is archaeological work done there, it's going to be severely hampered by all of the disturbance and trash.

So yeah, this sucks. It's damage being done by people in ORVs and ATVs that either don't understand what they're driving through or don't care. Damage like this won't be stopped by closing down all of the roads in Wharton, not least because the roads through Friendship are major thoroughfares...

The same ruin, 2009. Look at how intact this is. It looks like someone has kicked over a lot of it now. Anybody care for a doughnut? More grafitti. Bonus shot of another foundation in Friendship that people used to drive through. The state has since filled it in. This was sometime in...

I stopped by Friendship on my way home from dropping something off at a friends house. One of the OTNJ people mentioned some trees that had been dragged into the packing house foundation at Friendship. She was right - it looks like someone dragged them down into the cellar hole to try to stop...

Literally THE WORST thing ever.

I should see if there's a way to turn it off since even I don't understand (or really care to understand) how it works.

I would be eternally grateful for that!

How do you know that the people driving all over the stream corridor are the same people that put the trash cans up?

Doing research after you have a conclusion already made up in your mind leads for poor science. Anybody can cherry pick and bend results to prove whatever point they want to make.

Ever notice that the most vocal pro-MAP people are the ones who are making a buck off the Pines?

Yeah, they've been rolling out this new style of map for other state forests/parks. I like the look/design of it.

Wish I could find that book on Amazon.

Seems like this site might be the North Jersey* equivalent of what this site started out as. I haven't gone into too much depth but it looks like it avoids the typical WeirdNJ nonsense. Long Pond ironworks looks like it'd be a great place to visit this winter. * Above the Raritan River.

Someone somewhere once said that people on this website don't really like to hike.

This new forum is for discussing land use issues in the Pine Barrens. Things like recreational access, the MAP, the pipelines, development, etc. This is an area where I am sure there will be some differences of opinion but please try to be respectful and keep an open mind of everyone's...

Ok. Its back, but down on the green bar below the grey one. Makes sense since when you log in that's where all of your profile stuff appears.