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Ben, I'm a member of NJORVA. They try real hard and I'm kind of surprised nobody responded. As far as them having meetings in Metuchen, thats just too far for me. This is just another example as to how far people should want to travel. Am I going to pack up my quads and bikes for a 3 hour...

It's about the new proposed penalties. Trying to get people to support this ridiculous new waste of taxpayer money. Tom

I posted a comment on the website hoping to improve their obviously lacking journalistic credibility:http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/324-11292007-1448533.html

That was a completely unbiased article. NOT! I'm glad that article brought up an important point. The new "enhanced" penalties for off- roading. I suppose someday they will pass a law to fine us a million dollars per offense so they can pay for a blue angles squadron to catch offenders...

It will improve.

I guess I thought that our beers unfortunately don't belong in the FRM's anymore. I've drank lots of different beers over the years, but now I've got no one to impress and for my money PBR is it. People make fun of me because ofit, but I don't care. Tom PS props to Yeungling, it's good...

I guess my firefox settings are screwed up. I could rarely view any pictures in postings.

I can relate, Trailhead! As I said before, the hands down best way to explore the woods is on an ATV. Sure, some riders go too fast, but some hunters stay outlater than 1/2 hr after sunset, and some hunt on sundays, but no one is talking about banning them. And don't get me wrong, I'm a...

I am skeptical no more. Thanks, Trailhead Tom

Check out these birds eye's from WWII: http://www.airfields-freeman.com/NJ/Airfields_NJ_AtlanticCity.html#bader Interesting? Tom

Bill, I don't recall Manahawkin Speedway. I think in 1950 most of Manahawkin was gravel pits. My family moved from Ship Bottom to Beachwood following the March 62 storm. My father taught at Sothern Regional and was good friends with Joe Justy who owned the Esso station on the corner ef RT 9 and...

Or see http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/showthread.php?p=42032#post42032 These birds eye view 3d maps are awesome. Drawbacks include it's hit and miss loading the 3d maps, it's at least a year old and some places (Eastern Shore of Virginia for example) are not mapped out in 3D.

Russ, I'm glad to have the chance to discuss this subject calmly and I hope rationally. As far as atv's comming around curves carelessly, that type of thing has been going on as long as I can remember, only it involves alot of careless drivers and riders and has resulted in some fatalaties. I...

Thanks Guy. Tom

Thanks for that, Sir. I went back today to get my pictures, but there was a active deer drive going on. I usually stay out of the woods during shotgun deer season. Tom

I forgot to thank you, Ben for your excellent points.

especially if you think it can be built on top of a wildlife community that was preserved for its natural resource values--you shouldn't be surprised if you have lots of opponents and a long and disappointing wait. You just said you can hunt if you choose to in a WMA. What about the people...

That would seem logical, except for the angles the boxes are in reference to the slab and why would there be 2 in close proximity behond my field. I will try to snap some photos tomorrow, I don't think they're 20 feet apart. Tom

I agree about the nice pics Jim. That is a very beautiful area. I also didn't know the pic had PBR's - my favorite also.

They're in the member gallery. Have fun Tom