A Sawmill, or is it?

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Hopefully, some of you will find this interesting.

Yesterday, I was planning our next PBX hike and pouring over aerial maps online, and I noticed an interesting location on the 1931 aerial. Just outside of Chatsworth not far from the Cemetery on what is now Parker Preserve property, there was a large open clearing that appeared to me to be a perfect location for a sawmill. There were roads leading to it in various directions, with one of the roads heading into the swamps of the Wading River nearby. It appeared to me there had been some cutting of wood which further enhanced my theory that it was a sawmill. The below map shows the location of the area in question circled in red, and you can see the road leading to the Wading River and the disturbance there circled in yellow. Also, notice the dark area right in the middle of the red area that I believed may have been a sawmill.


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I had been corresponding with bobpbx about my plans for the hike, and told him about my find, and he did not really seem to think I was correct. A short time later I received this email from Bob.


Guy, do you have Jersey Genesis in paperback? Look at page 189.


I have the hardback but it is obvious now that the pages are the same. Here is what Henry Beck writes on page 189 in Jersey Genesis and Bob so unbelievably came up with.



What launched my rather spotty investigation of this moss business was something that happened long before I met Sammy Ford. I had come upon the most interesting group of "mossies" I had had the good fortune to meet, most of a family, at work down the Jones Mill Road. I had been looking for gatherers of sphagnum , and Jack Buzby, at the Chatsworth store, called me up one day and suggested that I go along with him by the site of the old Jones mill. It proved a sunny afternoon, and before it was over I had seen the whole procedure, producer to consumer.

Not far down the road was a clearing. In it were neat little piles of drying moss. In the midst was a typical bailer, homemade from odds and ends but entirely serviceable in the job it accomplished. It may be that you have seen this peculiar machine and have wondered what on earth it was. A tall, boxlike affair, made with parts of crates, perhaps with a crank fashioned from an old and rusted pipe that sometime utilizes a chain to pull the moss tight, puzzled you as much as bewildered me. Let it puzzle you no more. It was Elmer Lemmon, a short and twisted man with a surprisingly young face, who overcame his infirmities to demonstrate how well the baler worked. He had just turned the moss in the field, he said. Baling it with wire was scheduled for dusk, in the shed, that evening. Further on, in another clearing bounded by chicken wire which had been taken there for the purpose of keeping the moss from blowing away in a sudden wind, Elvin Leek was still spreading sphagnum on the hot white sand of the pine country, using a pitchfork. Elmer Lemmon had said that the clearing was across from Selah Bowker's; and Jack Buzby told me that until I saw Selah, I could not say that I had talked to a true "mossy." And so we came next upon Selah Bowker, his wife, and a coterie or relatives and friends.

Selah was tall and angular and given to monosyllables, even in the answering of questions. Like him, Mrs. Bowker wore rubber boots, into which were stuffed the legs of blue denim pants. Similarly attired was was Wayne Lockwood, their son-in-law. All three came marching from the pungent lowlands with the last heaping loads of dripping moss that Selah's truck would hold. I marveled that a truck had penetrated so deeply into the swamps drained by the branches of the Wading River. "Mossin'," Selah told me in one of his few full speeches, "just has to be in the family, or it just don't pay at all."



So today Jessica and paid a visit to this location, and roamed around for a short length of time. One still is able to see that something had transpired at this location, and there was no evidence of a sawmill. I have to say that I was wrong and more than likely Bob was correct.

There were many old bottles there, along with other evidence of disturbance. Jessica found a large old Mason jar in perfect shape. Some of the other finds are shown below.


The area.

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A dog bowl?


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Salt or Pepper???

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That is so very cool that you went there to track it down Guy. No foundations or anything? Thanks for the credit, but I"ll always give you the benefit of doubt until some relations to the mossies confirm it, or if you find the baler parts. Maybe though, they moved them to another clearing or they burned in the '63 fire (if it went through there).

That area you circled in yeller (as Al would say it) looks like a good mossin' bog.
 

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"just has to be in the family, or it just don't pay at all."

I can understand that....one guy to rake, one guy to load and drive, one guy to offload and dry, and one guy to bale. If they all wanted pay it would not be profitable.
 

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Jeff,

Maybe the area you mention was where they dried it. I would assume they needed a large area for that. I was thinking the area I zeroed in must have had something to do with the collecting of it since the road from there went directly to the Wading. Most likely both of the area's in question are where Beck visited.

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Way cool, Guy. Nice work. My gut tells me that Bob's story is correct, but it may just be an irresistable inclination to link that clearing with the story. Heck, your spot might have been a sawmill, and the mossing might have been done nearby as well. The 'disturbance' over by the wading does look an awful lot like a lumbered section, doesn't it? Perhaps they were cutting cedar and hauling it up the road to a sawmill or shingle operation.

Would be interesting to see if the middle of that piece has any remains of that bailer :).
 

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Way cool, Guy. Nice work. My gut tells me that Bob's story is correct, but it may just be an irresistable inclination to link that clearing with the story. Heck, your spot might have been a sawmill, and the mossing might have been done nearby as well. The 'disturbance' over by the wading does look an awful lot like a lumbered section, doesn't it? Perhaps they were cutting cedar and hauling it up the road to a sawmill or shingle operation.

Would be interesting to see if the middle of that piece has any remains of that bailer :).

I was at the exact location of the dark spot in the circular area and nothing was there. I did not explore the larger clearing that Jeff was referring to. I will be in that area next weekend most likely so I will check it out.


Also, some really serious exploring on Sunday brought this to light.


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I'd bet 10 Krugerrands that you found portions of buildings more than 150 years old Guy. They look as old as Hampton Furnace.

PS: it was 5-6 years ago that I became disillusioned with the stock market and had a plan to buy one Krugerrand a month instead of pumping dollars into my IRA. I researched them and got ready to do it.

Guess what?

I never did.

Such is life.
 
Also, some really serious exploring on Sunday brought this to light.



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Guy

A fascinating and rare find in the Pines! Note how someone during the early part of the twentieth century has blanked a door and window in the image above using a concretion of stone and cement. The results of this work provides an unusual appearance, but it is readily visible and probably has served well to keep that elevation of the wall together.

Best regards,
Jerseyman
 

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All,

I have downloaded the complete Chatsworth 1940 census and have been looking the information over. A member of this site inadvertently gave me the information I needed to do this. Anyway, while looking them over I found Selah Bowker who was the mosser that Beck visited and wrote about in Jersey Genesis. A while back I found what I believe to be the ruins of his home that is discussed in this thread.

Selah Bowker was 68 years old in 1940 and his wife Laura was only 50. He apparently never went to school but his wife finished 8th grade. By 1940 he was unable to work and she did the home housework.

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Very cool Guy! But looking back through this thread, I couldn't help but think that it still wasn't too late for Bob to buy those Krugerrands in 2009. :D
 

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Very cool Guy! But looking back through this thread, I couldn't help but think that it still wasn't too late for Bob to buy those Krugerrands in 2009. :D

By that time they were too expensive. I could have bought a grand total of 1 every 5 months!
 

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With the help of a female member of this site who has enlightened me tremendously over the years, we learn a little more about Selah Bowker. (Read page 189, 190, and 191 in Jersey Genesis by Beck)

In 1880 Selah was 7 years old and had a brother named John who was 10 years old, and another brother Henry who was 15. His mom's name was Mary A. (someone else said it was Mary Anne Bennett) and his dads name was most likely Garrett but the spelling is hard to read. Selah must have married sometime after 1895 and was divorced by April of 1910 and was living in Manahawkin and Woodland Township by 1910. He was a laborer who did odd jobs.

By 1920 he owned his home and was a laborer of Moss and Berries. Married again, he had a stepson Elmer Lemmon who Beck met and wrote about. There also was a step daughter Laura who was 4 7/12 old.

By 1930 his home was valued at $1500 and we know his wife Laura was first married at age 18. There was a lodger in the Bowker home named Joseph Griffee?? age 42 who was a veteran of WW1 and apparently worked for Selah.

By 1940 his son-in-law (Wayne Lockwood) and daughter (step daughter according to the 1920 and 30 census) who previously lived in Jobstown now lived with Selah. He now was the moss gatherer and Selah did not have an occupation. Also, living with Selah now was his granddaughter Betty age 4, a grandson Sidney W. age 1, and another grandson Robert age 7/12.

Guy
 
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