Andrew Rider & Charles Wilkinson Stone
- Thread starter Teegate
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I need input from all of you for some idea's. I actually made "shoes" to walk around in to help us find stones and they worked semi well even though Al found all the stones. 
Today my legs feel like rubber and I want some different idea's.
I had an old pair of sneakers and cut two 2x4 pieces of wood the same length as my sneakers. I then screwed sheet rock screws thru the wood so they stuck out a full inch or more on one side. And lastly I screwed the sneakers to the wood in two places with a large washer and put them on. Whenever they hit stone it was very obvious and all I had to do was walk around. At first it was cumbersome, but I soon got quite good at it. However, the screws kept picking up the wet leaves and in no time they weighed a ton. This also kept the screws from going into the ground fully.
Al had some other suggestions on using this idea with a hand held device, and I will be trying that in the future. However, I like the shoes system but want other idea's that will make it easier to walk, and idea's on how to keep the leaves from sticking so much. The threads on the screws were the problem, and even nails I am sure would hold the leaves but they also may come out easier than the threaded screws which I don't want.
Here is a very short video of them. You can't see the screws but can hear them hitting the concrete. This video can only be viewed if you have the link. Nobody on youtube can view it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afL5SmNuqqo
Any idea's to make them better?
If you see anyone walking in the woods with a shoe box.........that is me
Guy
Today my legs feel like rubber and I want some different idea's.I had an old pair of sneakers and cut two 2x4 pieces of wood the same length as my sneakers. I then screwed sheet rock screws thru the wood so they stuck out a full inch or more on one side. And lastly I screwed the sneakers to the wood in two places with a large washer and put them on. Whenever they hit stone it was very obvious and all I had to do was walk around. At first it was cumbersome, but I soon got quite good at it. However, the screws kept picking up the wet leaves and in no time they weighed a ton. This also kept the screws from going into the ground fully.
Al had some other suggestions on using this idea with a hand held device, and I will be trying that in the future. However, I like the shoes system but want other idea's that will make it easier to walk, and idea's on how to keep the leaves from sticking so much. The threads on the screws were the problem, and even nails I am sure would hold the leaves but they also may come out easier than the threaded screws which I don't want.
Here is a very short video of them. You can't see the screws but can hear them hitting the concrete. This video can only be viewed if you have the link. Nobody on youtube can view it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afL5SmNuqqo
Any idea's to make them better?
If you see anyone walking in the woods with a shoe box.........that is me
Guy
I don't think it is possible to get around the problem of leaf accumulation on the spikes. It is part of what you are doing. If you styled your spiked shoes closer to an ice crampon, it could slow the amount that is picked up. The wedges would be slower to pick up leaves. Either that you have to design some sort of kicker, maybe a loose piece of rubber that flaps down when you walk that would sweep some of the leaves off. How many spikes do you have in the bottom and the pattern?
I have 8 but I need more. Al found one of the stones so I walked over it with my shoes. I happened to catch the stone between the spikes and it did not make a sound. So I am missing some area's that I actually walk on.
I could use on of those in your photo but I suspect the spikes are too short.
Guy
I could use on of those in your photo but I suspect the spikes are too short.
Guy
I'll probably be back amongst the working elite in a few weeks
arm still hurts like hell in the mornings though.
We were both working one handed. Al had to use his good arm and I held the camera.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emK_5FWXA3g&feature=youtu.be
Guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emK_5FWXA3g&feature=youtu.be
Guy
Yesterday kept us away so we ventured out today and found another Rider & Wilkinson stone. This one I have looked for twice and today my 60CSX GPS got us within three feet. Even though it was a nice find we were about 1 for 10 today on second and third tries.
Guy
Guy
I hunted for a half an hour for that thing last winter and I believe you've been out there too and came back empty handed.We're going to have to start dropping an half acre of trees to get a good fix like the surveyors do
Al
Al
Yesterday, Al (manumuskin) searched for a few Rider stones that Jessica and I had quickly looked for earlier this year and he came up with three of them. This morning Jessica and I searched for quite a few more and found 4. Unfortunately, we did not find more R&W incised stones. We were in the upland area just north of the road from Carranza to Hampton Park.
Al's finds yesterday that I visited today.
Our finds today.
A small stone
So far that is 20 of 84. A couple of them were at one time right in the center of Carranza Road. These date to long before that road was built it appears.
Guy
Al's finds yesterday that I visited today.
Our finds today.
A small stone
So far that is 20 of 84. A couple of them were at one time right in the center of Carranza Road. These date to long before that road was built it appears.
Guy
It's funny to think at first we were looking for above ground stones and went over the whole area and said man out of 80 stones theres not a single one here,Then you found that one inscribed stone just poking through the pine needles and we started going back over them and the ones barely poking up started to come to light and now were stabbing the ground and they are popping up all over the place.I had also noticed the locations of a couple being right in the middle of carranza road.I wonder how old that road is.I'm sure it was even narrower originally but these seemed to be right in the middle of it.
Al
Al
Today was a nice day to be in the big woods, and by 11AM Jessica and I had found three more stones. All three I had looked for before. The GPS was a little off today and we struggled quite a bit. I am sure we missed quite a few that we looked for today. They have to be there.
This was semi large
And this one is right by the road along the Skit Branch. I looked twice for this before and Jessica found it in seconds today.
Guy
This was semi large
And this one is right by the road along the Skit Branch. I looked twice for this before and Jessica found it in seconds today.
Guy
After spending both days of the weekend exploring the pines, I decided that was not enough. So I used my planned day off from work to spend time with Al and Jessica searching for Rider/Wilkinson stones. By 8:15 we were on the prowl and finds came fast and furious. As usual that did not last long, but we did well for a while.
This one was well hidden. 8:44AM
Multiple tries in the past made this one a nice find.
Our third find at 9:30AM. The stone will be pushed in a few years it appears.
And at 9:44AM our final find.
Guy
This one was well hidden. 8:44AM
Multiple tries in the past made this one a nice find.
Our third find at 9:30AM. The stone will be pushed in a few years it appears.
And at 9:44AM our final find.
Guy
All,
You would think that after a minimum of 5 attempts by Al, Jessica, and I, we would have given up looking at one location for a stone that has eluded us for some time. On one occasion I spent over a half hour by myself looking for it. However, I was fixated on it knowing this location had the best possibility to have a Rider/Wilkinson stone. It is close to the cranberry warehouse ruins, but remote enough for it to still be there. So again this morning Jessica and I traveled there and my GPS put us in the same location. We poked around for a while and then decided to expand our search area slightly. It was a good decision. This one is larger than the rest and for the first time it has the 45 degree angles on it.
Guy
You would think that after a minimum of 5 attempts by Al, Jessica, and I, we would have given up looking at one location for a stone that has eluded us for some time. On one occasion I spent over a half hour by myself looking for it. However, I was fixated on it knowing this location had the best possibility to have a Rider/Wilkinson stone. It is close to the cranberry warehouse ruins, but remote enough for it to still be there. So again this morning Jessica and I traveled there and my GPS put us in the same location. We poked around for a while and then decided to expand our search area slightly. It was a good decision. This one is larger than the rest and for the first time it has the 45 degree angles on it.
Guy
I had high hopes for that spot but after so many visits was beginning to lose them.Did Jess like her crow?
are you serious? a pretzel? Keep her away from the Ruffles with Ridges.No telling what sh'ell do to herself with those things