Bass River Fire Tower proposal
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This 1930 aerial shows there may have been something there at that time (if I'm right about Guy's location).
True. Forest fires are responsible for the creation of the Pines and depend on it. I guess the next best are the controlled burns but that only thins the ground cover not the canopies. Mentioned further down in this thread the white pines are not native and were planted to be harvested as a resource. I'm sure the intention was lumber or paper, not wood chips left to rot. I just got caught up in the beauty of those forests vs the ignorant tangled nightmare of the Pines that are NOT burned. Another "oasis" is the corner along the county line at Coyle Field.
Here is an example of a white pine planting next to the Lebanon fire tower. Just a grove of overgrown really tall sticks. Post 523.
https://forums.njpinebarrens.com/threads/where-is-this.9838/page-27#post-122580
https://forums.njpinebarrens.com/threads/where-is-this.9838/page-27#post-122580
Ed, post 555 in "where is this" thread is that same boat I posted a few weeks ago. You posted it 4 years ago. Amazing memory I have. 
https://forums.njpinebarrens.com/threads/where-is-this.9838/page-28
https://forums.njpinebarrens.com/threads/where-is-this.9838/page-28
Apparently the option to clear trees (vs replacing the tower) is expected to cost the state nothing at all. I think that means the state would put out a zero-cost contract where whoever cuts the trees keeps the wood.
There is a ccc planting off Allen road that was a nice piece of habitat for a long time. Now the trees are getting so tall and shadying out the area proving it to be worthless. There is no shortage of trees or thick pine forest. There is however shortages of open healthy pine barrens forest. I like both versions of the forest because they serve a purpose. Its just very cool to watch a space open up and species flock to it like an oasis in the forest.
Just choose "I prefer not to answer" when asked.
Blocked fire tower view in Bass River State Forest fuels controversy
It is interesting that members of the PPA and not the PPA itself are complaining. The PPA is accepting it.
http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/...cle_94e439cf-bb35-51b3-9f18-4bbd8bbab0ea.html
Blocked fire tower view in Bass River State Forest fuels controversy
It is interesting that members of the PPA and not the PPA itself are complaining. The PPA is accepting it.
http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/...cle_94e439cf-bb35-51b3-9f18-4bbd8bbab0ea.html
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Wasn't asked anything to read the article.
Anything 80+ years is definitely old, almost real old, bordering on ancient. No offense toward anyone that old on this site. I would think having a structural engineer check it out would be one of the first things to do, especially if they are planning to use it for the next 10 years.
Anything 80+ years is definitely old, almost real old, bordering on ancient. No offense toward anyone that old on this site. I would think having a structural engineer check it out would be one of the first things to do, especially if they are planning to use it for the next 10 years.
Interesting side-story: There is talk of a Sequoia tree growing in one of the areas scheduled for Phase I clearing and burning. A reliable source says the CCC planted "a lot of weird trees" there, as part of an experimental plantation to see what grows best, including the Sequoia. I asked: Wouldn't we notice if a 400' tall giant redwood was growing there? The response was: it hasn't been long enough, and there isn't enough water, for it to grow that tall.
I've walked through the area in question twice, looking for it, but I don't really know what I'm looking at, and it's a rough area - no trails or tracks, lots of trees down on the ground. There's another person who is very interesting in finding it. She believes it is somewhere out there and wants to take a hiking group there to see it before it is gone. I've offered to help look but we haven't yet found a time we can both do it.
I've walked through the area in question twice, looking for it, but I don't really know what I'm looking at, and it's a rough area - no trails or tracks, lots of trees down on the ground. There's another person who is very interesting in finding it. She believes it is somewhere out there and wants to take a hiking group there to see it before it is gone. I've offered to help look but we haven't yet found a time we can both do it.
Could redwoods actually grow in our soil and climate? I wouldn't have thought so. I lived in Northern California for a year and loved those big trees, which were right outside our door. I brought some seeds when I returned East and wanted to grow a tree in a flower pot but didn't have any luck at all. 
Could redwoods actually grow in our soil and climate? I wouldn't have thought so. I lived in Northern California for a year and loved those big trees, which were right outside our door. I brought some seeds when I returned East and wanted to grow a tree in a flower pot but didn't have any luck at all.
They can, we brought a couple Sequoia seedlings home when we were out there visiting. They were for sale in the Muir Woods VC. They lasted for quite a few months then checked out, probably more our fault. Our acidic soil should be perfect for them, but I think they need the humidity.
Some NJ examples;
https://www.giant-sequoia.com/gallery/usa/new-jersey/