- Sep 17, 2002
It will never be over when we have groups nagging the DEP to death either by their public comments or directly.
Hey if Hammonton owns a road in the state forest and can give it to a private individual does this mean that the roads in Wharton are owned by the respective townships and not the forest? Perhaps the state forest does not have authority to close township owned roads?
I agree Tommy. And this statement rankles me too: "One such map in 2015 restricted the area open to vehicles but it was quickly withdrawn after what critics said was a storm of protest from the off-road lobby to the Christie administration".This is a terribly written article. "Birders and others who don't use vehicles in the parks..." Yeah, they walk in from the highway, I am sure.
The article they cribbed from at the NJ DEP site is here. But the details are the same. Unless we speak up, permits are coming.
Here is the link to register for the mapping meeting. It looks like all you can do is give an email address to be notified about it, at this time:
Sounds like nothing more then a survey. That will be all our input will beSo what is everyones opinion of this text in on the DEP website? Is this maybe zoom or teams or web based?? Do you think it is Zoom or Teams?
The Sept. 27 meeting will demonstrate for participants a new web-based survey and mapping tool where park users will answer questions about their favorite recreational activities in Wharton State Forest, such as fishing, hiking, boating and scenic driving, among others.
In any event, I want to keep this thread on the Latest Post list.Sounds like nothing more then a survey. That will be all our input will be
Great question. Even the commission itself describes the division of authority and responsibility as “complex”. It would appear that there are grey areas in there that might confuse the respective departments themselves. As the commission is focused solely on the CPMP it would be a logical assumption that as long as the DEP initiative does not threaten the CPMP then the DEP has the ability to do what they want. That being said, it could be argued that the implementation of restrictions on the general public to access the region has repercussions to the the cultural integrity of the region. But, that’s a point of conjecture.I also suggest that everyone strongly consider getting involved in the stakeholder process. That being said, I have a question that I believe is important, and simultaneously frustrating, in that I can't find a relevant answer. My question, which I hope does not portray my lack of knowledge, is: What is the role of the Pinelands Commission as opposed to the role of the DEP with respect to regulating recreation (hunting, fishing, boating, driving, hiking, etc.) in the Pine Barrens? Does the DEP report and answer to the Pinelands Commission or is the Pinelands Commission subservient to the DEP? With two days of rain and a case of Covid I've had time to read the Federal and New Jersey legislation from 1979 that created the Pinelands Preserve and the Pinelands Commission. I've also read the relevant legislative committee reports, Governor Byrne's Executive Order 71, and the Commission's Comprehensive Management Plan. (For those of you suffering from insomnia I recommend reading those documents as a likely cure.) In reading those documents, assuming I haven't lost all my intellectual capacity, it seems the Pinelands Commission rather than the DEP has the legal authority to regulate recreational activities in the Pine Barrens. If the Pinelands Commission were conducting this survey I could understand but I don't see where the DEP has the statutory legal authority to do so. Thus my question, what are the respective roles of the Pinelands Commission and New Jersey DEP in regulating recreation in the Pine Barrens? Any help would be much appreciated.