Firefighter, 18, charged with setting forest fire

Chrisr

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Sep 14, 2008
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It's idiots like him that give us good ones a bad name!!! :argh: Well, one good thing is he'll never be a civil servant again. If he had any aspirations on being a career firefighter, or have anything to do with the fire service, he can kiss all that good bye, now.
 

woodjin

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Nov 8, 2004
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This is great news that they caught him. There was a similar inncident back in my home town with a newbie firefighter starting fires. It is my understanding that many arsonists join fire companies. I heard that mandatory psych exams weed most of them out. but what do I know?
 

skip3

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Nov 21, 2009
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Had a kid working for me that was in the paper on Tuesday for rescuing three people in a house fire .

He was back in the paper on Thursday .........He set the fire....... :argh:
 

Chrisr

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Sep 14, 2008
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This is great news that they caught him. There was a similar inncident back in my home town with a newbie firefighter starting fires. It is my understanding that many arsonists join fire companies. I heard that mandatory psych exams weed most of them out. but what do I know?

Alot of fire depts (volunteer, anyway) don't require psych exams. Biggest reason being, the dept. would have to pay for it, and most volunteer ones don't have that kind of money. All you have to do to join is fill out an application, give them your DL #, and thats it.
 

gipsie

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Alot of fire depts (volunteer, anyway) don't require psych exams. Biggest reason being, the dept. would have to pay for it, and most volunteer ones don't have that kind of money. All you have to do to join is fill out an application, give them your DL #, and thats it.

there is a LOT more to it than that....trust me...

The deal mainly, and I attribute this to years in the NYPD and doing some stuff with the NYPD arson squad, is that a lot of guys sign up for "the rush". When they realize it is not an everyday fire and there are a ton of BORING days in there they decide to make things "interesting".....

As to "giving them your DL# and that is it"...that is entirely NOT TRUE!!!!

Whatever volunteer you go to...no matter how off the beaten track..they REQUIRE you to pass your FF1 and in most cases your FF2.

You have to go through some semi-rigorous field tests and a bunch of written and other stuff. In the case of volunteers, the department pays for it, but if it is something you want to do on a full time basis and paid,...YOU have to pay for it....

Find me a department that you do not have to do this and I guarantee you that will change toot suite!!!
 

Chrisr

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Sep 14, 2008
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there is a LOT more to it than that....trust me...

The deal mainly, and I attribute this to years in the NYPD and doing some stuff with the NYPD arson squad, is that a lot of guys sign up for "the rush". When they realize it is not an everyday fire and there are a ton of BORING days in there they decide to make things "interesting".....

As to "giving them your DL# and that is it"...that is entirely NOT TRUE!!!!

Whatever volunteer you go to...no matter how off the beaten track..they REQUIRE you to pass your FF1 and in most cases your FF2.

You have to go through some semi-rigorous field tests and a bunch of written and other stuff. In the case of volunteers, the department pays for it, but if it is something you want to do on a full time basis and paid,...YOU have to pay for it....

Find me a department that you do not have to do this and I guarantee you that will change toot suite!!!

Gipsie, your 100% correct about FF1. As for just joining a volly dept. all you have to do for most is fill out an app. and give them your DL. The local PD, or State Police, depending on your locale will run your DL and some will even run you thru the NCIC. If that comes back clean, your in. Then you have to go thru the academy and pass FF1 and HazMat to be a firefighter in the state of NJ. FF2 is an option in the state of NJ. Bottom line is, it is extremely easy to join a dept. Passing the qualifications in the state of NJ is the tough part. :D
 
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