Hunting Seasons Begin 9-13-08

RednekF350

RednekF350

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This Saturday marks the beginning of the hunting seasons with the opening of fall bow in several deer management zones (DMZ).
Zones 19 and 25 are included in the early season and encompass big chunks of Wharton.
The statewide bow opener is October 4th.
Here is the full deer schedule:
http://www.njfishandwildlife.com/pdf/2008/regsets08-09.pdf
Here is a map of the DMZ's
http://www.njfishandwildlife.com/pdf/2005/dmz-dmu_map05-06.pdf
The earliest firearm season for deer is December 1.
Good luck to all the hunters on the site.
:)
Scott
 
RednekF350 said:
This Saturday marks the beginning of the hunting seasons with the opening of fall bow in several deer management zones (DMZ).
Zones 19 and 25 are included in the early season and encompass big chunks of Wharton.
The statewide bow opener is October 4th.
Here is the full deer schedule:
http://www.njfishandwildlife.com/pdf/2008/regsets08-09.pdf
Here is a map of the DMZ's
http://www.njfishandwildlife.com/pdf/2005/dmz-dmu_map05-06.pdf
The earliest firearm season for deer is December 1.
Good luck to all the hunters on the site.
:)
Scott
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Good luck to all the animals, the hunters dont need luck they have guns
 
Aaron said:
Good luck to all the animals, the hunters dont need luck they have guns
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You obviously have little knowledge of hunting. Game are prey year round while hunters are predators a few days a year at most. Any advantage hunters' guns give them is more than matched by the adaptations and survival skills of their prey. Deer hunters in particular have far more unsuccessful days than successful. Many go entire seasons without getting a deer. The next time you see deer grazing on the side of the Parkway, seeming oblivious to passing cars, pull your car to the shoulder within what you think is firearm range and see what they do!
 
I can see this thread quickly turning into a hunting vs. non-hunting thread, but before that occurs, I have to agree with Aaron. I fail to see the sport in baiting an area with dried-corn, while an "Elmer Fud" type person eagerly waits high in a tree, ready to shoot as his/her prey.
 
It will be bow season which requires you to be much closer to take a shot.

Guy
 
Pro or Con hunter, B/S...
Who gives a hang how folks hunt. I don't care for some and respect others but I'll keep that to myself. Be thankful Scott has given you a tool to guage when it is safe for you to be out and when not. The tool also services the hunters who pay dearly (or is it Deerly) in Jersey to hunt. A bunch of folks searching for heck knows what and riding about in the woods doesn't help the hunters at all. Try to view it on those two points. We've got hunters on the site but one of them has chosen to share something that benefits all.
Win/Win dudes.

g.
 
this_is_nascar said:
I can see this thread quickly turning into a hunting vs. non-hunting thread, but before that occurs, I have to agree with Aaron. I fail to see the sport in baiting an area with dried-corn, while an "Elmer Fud" type person eagerly waits high in a tree, ready to shoot as his/her prey.
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i guess you know little of hunting. baiting deer with corn just creates a food source. no different than hunting near an apple tree or acorn stand of white oak trees. deer of the pines have been educated to look up in the trees and feed more so at night. baiting just draws deer to an area in which you still have to scout and find trails leading to food sources to harvest one. they can smell and see better than a dog. if you think its shooting fish in a barrel hunting bait your sadly mistaken. the deer you see in the back yards of the houses in the pines are basically pets to the home owners that feed them. try hiking into forked river mountain and see how many deer you can get near too.
 
I’m sorry foofoo but I’m not with ya on the baiting issue. Baiting provides a concentrated food source and is not exactly the same as a natural one. In fact, baiting deer was illegal in New Jersey until a short while ago, and still is for waterfowl, both statewide and nationally. And it wasn’t made legal due to ethical considerations. The state was having trouble controlling the deer population in many zones and made baiting legal for more practical reasons. So now we have hunters legally doing something that a few decades ago would have resulted in a fine and the label of unethical hunter placed on them. I’m somewhat bothered by that. The ethical nature of an activity should not be changed for pragmatic reasons.

As for the need to avoid the woods during hunting season for your safety, I don’t agree with that concept either. If the woods were so dangerous, wouldn’t they be so for hunters as well? How much do any of you look like deer anyway? A hunter doesn’t bag game by randomly shooting at sounds in the woods. They do it by taking their time and not only identifying their target, but aiming for a lethal spot on the game’s body. That doesn’t lend itself to shooting another person. Hunting accidents are extremely rare, and have become even more so since almost every state adopted mandatory hunter safety courses. In fact they are so rare, they are big news when they do happen, overshadowing automobile deaths that happen far more often. While we might want to avoid rush hour traffic, how many of us avoid driving at any given time because we fear being killed on our roads?

Even ticks don’t keep most of us out of the woods and Lyme disease is a more likely threat to you than being shot. If you want to venture into the woods during hunting season and are nervous about being safe, do what hunters are legally required to do. Buy some hunter orange apparel. Taking such precautions are no different than using Deet or Permanone during warm seasons.
 
LARGO said:
Be thankful Scott has given you a tool to guage when it is safe for you to be out and when not.

g.
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My main purpose was to remind the members of the impending shared use of our woods by hunters.
As German said, there is little reason to fear for your safety as hunting has one of the lowest accident rates of any outdoor sport.
I appreciate the respect of others when I am hunting and I respect those that are hunting when I am just walking the woods.
I don't think anyone should stay out of the woods during hunting season but if you observe someone hunting, give them a wide berth and try not to disturb the setting that the hunter has worked hard to construct.
Scott
 
GermanG said:
You obviously have little knowledge of hunting. Game are prey year round while hunters are predators a few days a year at most. Any advantage hunters' guns give them is more than matched by the adaptations and survival skills of their prey. Deer hunters in particular have far more unsuccessful days than successful. Many go entire seasons without getting a deer. The next time you see deer grazing on the side of the Parkway, seeming oblivious to passing cars, pull your car to the shoulder within what you think is firearm range and see what they do!
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Well its funny, im not sure where you live but in the part of Salem County i live in we have deer everywhere, and hunters everywhere, I went hunting one time and didnt find it either enjoyable or sporting.

I am in the minority where i live, everyone and there 12 yr old sister hunts. Chances are i see more deer in a weekend than most people see all year, not to mention fox,yotes, and a week ago a black bear.

I actually dont mind people hunting, the deer population near me is insane, so far this year there have been 5 deer vs vehichle accidents at my work, not to mention a guy hitting a yote with his motorcycle last week.
 
German & Scott, good points both.
Perhaps my wording should have been when to "watch out"
I don't stay out myself because cold weather beats all for not getting ticks & chigs. I do however pay closer attention than I would out of season and it is nice to know when fellows are out so schedules are handy, thanks.
As for how one hunts, their own conscience and sensability should be part of their routine.
I am sorry but I stay way out when clubs are running.
Reason and accountability run low when they are out.
But to all... good hunting the coming season.

g.
 
One location to be careful of at anytime. Is north of range road, about a 1/4 mile west from 539.

There are many who use this area to illegally target shoot. These are probably not hunters. Plus they leave a huge mess behind.

There have been arrests. Some have left when asked to leave.

NJ DEP says it does not have the staff to patrol the area and rely upon those of us out there to report concerns.

Although there are no signs on most entry points into the Stafford WMA that I have seen. Which would give a warning to what can and cannot be done on the WMA property.
 
Aaron, my only point was that hunting isn't as easy as some people think, just because hunters have the advantage of firearms. As to its enjoyment, it has nothing to do with the killing, much as a livestock farmer who enjoys his way of life might not list the killing of his livestock as the favorite part of his job. Myself and many other hunters enjoy the satisfaction from the feeling of self-sufficiency that hunting provides. It is no different than fishing, crabbing, clamming, picking wild blueberries or even growing your own vegetables. If you invite non-hunting guests over for supper you will be praised when they find out that you grew the fresh peas that they were eating. If you serve clams casino made from clams you harvested yourself from the bay, you will likewise receive praise. But if you place a venison roast on the table you suddenly get a different reaction, and might even be considered by some to be a more primitive segment of our society. I really don't see any difference in any of these things from one another.
 
GermanG said:
I’m sorry foofoo but I’m not with ya on the baiting issue. Baiting provides a concentrated food source and is not exactly the same as a natural one. In fact, baiting deer was illegal in New Jersey until a short while ago, and still is for waterfowl,
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baiting for deer has been around for like 10 years now. its not so new. sorry but hunting next to an apple tree or sitting on a corn field is all the same. its a food source. just because i choose to take the apples from the same tree and throw them somewhere else doesnt make it any different. its still a food source. your use of the word concentrated sounds a little off to me. if i go into the pines and find a stand of white acorn trees in a spot 50 yards by 50 yards is that concentrated? you bet ya! those white acorns are like candy for deer and for me its no different than hunting near wild or cultivated food sources like cranberries, corn,apples,or persimmons. also there is legal bait for waterfowl. its called decoys.
 
GermanG said:
Aaron, my only point was that hunting isn't as easy as some people think, just because hunters have the advantage of firearms. As to its enjoyment, it has nothing to do with the killing, much as a livestock farmer who enjoys his way of life might not list the killing of his livestock as the favorite part of his job. Myself and many other hunters enjoy the satisfaction from the feeling of self-sufficiency that hunting provides. It is no different than fishing, crabbing, clamming, picking wild blueberries or even growing your own vegetables. If you invite non-hunting guests over for supper you will be praised when they find out that you grew the fresh peas that they were eating. If you serve clams casino made from clams you harvested yourself from the bay, you will likewise receive praise. But if you place a venison roast on the table you suddenly get a different reaction, and might even be considered by some to be a more primitive segment of our society. I really don't see any difference in any of these things from one another.
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I appreciate your opinion different strokes for different folks i guess, I am a vegetarian and an animal lover ( not an activist) i dont judge people for eating animals and think that hunting is a necessary function of population control ( especially in NJ where we dont have enough "natural" predators to keep the population in check) my comment was made jokingly. Although hunters really dont need the luck there worse case scenario they sit in the woods all day and enjoy nature, the deers worse case scenario is much different- Half joking this time :)
 
Aaron said:
Good luck to all the animals, the hunters dont need luck they have guns
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hahaha, you're funny aaron. a lighthearted joke.


anywho.. if any hunters don't feel like skinning their deer this season, or would otherwise be throwing out their hides, i'm looking for some stuff to brain tan! if anyone's interested, shoot me a message. it's great to have the hide turn into something useful instead of rotting in the trash.

good luck to all the hunters out there!
 
I think hunting is a great thing the millions of dollars that are spent on the liscenses go to a good cause and its great to be in the outdoors. It seems less and less people are interested in hunting and fishing which is a darn shame.
 
mike242424 said:
I think hunting is a great thing the millions of dollars that are spent on the liscenses go to a good cause and its great to be in the outdoors. It seems less and less people are interested in hunting and fishing which is a darn shame.
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The decline in hunters has PA allowing 'mentored youth hunts' allowing youths under legal hunting age out to try it, the sport is competing w/ more organized youth sports and video games. The legislature just introduced a bill to even allow mentored adult hunts too to bring more hunters into the woods.

Considering how the Pittman-Robertson funds allowed the purchase of most conservancy land in the US by taxing weapons and ammo since the early 1900's; it's time to extend it to hiking boots, mountain bikes, etc. to capture needed revenue from the non-paying users so the tradition of preserving land for everyone can continue.

The hunting community has financed your outdoor enjoyment for a century or so...

I've seen young adults who were interested in hunting but were not interested in spending time afield just wanted to go out and shoot a deer, instant gratification is another problem.

Did anyone else pick up on the salem county guy talking about seeing a bear?
 
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