Identify this structure?

[TheChairman]

I was hoping to learn more about this structure. It’s one of the first things I found in the pines. I don’t want to give away the exact location, but is on the very easy side and someone knowledgeable should know exactly what it is and where it is.

It’s on a creek on the maps, but the creek itself doesn’t seem to have much water in it. From the looks of it, it may have had a lot more water at one point?

 

[ecampbell]

water guage station?

 

[RednekF350]

I was hoping to learn more about this structure. It’s one of the first things I found in the pines. I don’t want to give away the exact location, but is on the very easy side and someone knowledgeable should know exactly what it is and where it is.

It’s on a creek on the maps, but the creek itself doesn’t seem to have much water in it. From the looks of it, it may have had a lot more water at one point?View attachment 17975

USGS stream gauge station.

 

[Boyd]

That's what it looks like to me also. I have included all the NJDEP/USGS stream monitoring stations on my 2020 topo map. So, you can go to the secret location of your structure and see if it's there. Here's an example of what one looks like:

https://boydsmaps.com/#17.00/39.884673/-74.505615/pines2020/0.00/0.00

BTW... is it "guage" or "gauge"? That always confuses me too. I just play it safe and call it a "gage"

Gage or gauge - Which spelling is correct?

Gage or gauge? Explanation of correct spelling for describing a pressure quantity or pressure transmitter that measures relative to atmospheric ambient pressure.

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[TheChairman]

USGS stream gauge station.

Very likely. I’m trying to find it on the map Boyd shared now.

How long have they been keeping track of this data? The building seems exceedingly old, as the bricks are deteriorating, and the floor is metal and rotted through.

 

[bobpbx]

Very likely. I’m trying to find it on the map Boyd shared now.

How long have they been keeping track of this data? The building seems exceedingly old, as the bricks are deteriorating, and the floor is metal and rotted through.

Were you in Lebanon State Forest? (Brendan Byrne if you use that name).

 

[TheChairman]

Yes, and that would be it there.

 

[Teegate]

That is the gageing station at Mt. Misery. The USGS uses gage I believe. Jerseyman's relative staffed the other one years ago. I have the info on them but would have to look it up. Maybe later today.

 

[Teegate]

Me there on 5/31/2003

 

[Boyd]

I thought it looked like one I've seen in Lebanon too, so I just picked a random one in the link above (same as the one Bob shows on the USGS topo). As for the age, you can see that is a feature they added to the topo map later because it's in purple ink. It does not appear on the 1951 or 1957 version of that map. Of course, it might have actually been there but they just didn't show it.

Wouldn't the high humidity in a location like that cause mortar to deteriorate and metal to rust faster?

 

[TheChairman]

Wouldn't the high humidity in a location like that cause mortar to deteriorate and metal to rust faster?

I would think so. It’s not 19th century old, but it’s definitely 1950s at the latest I would think. I suspect older than that. I was looking for evidence of fasteners used because those are a great way to date equipment and structures and I didn’t really see any.

 

[smoke_jumper]

BTW... is it "guage" or "gauge"? That always confuses me too. I just play it safe and call it a "gage"

That’s a funny topic for me lol. We decided to name my youngest son that. On the day he was born the nurse asked if we decided on a name and we told her. When she then asked how are we going to spell it we just looked at each other. After a short discussion we settled on “Gauge” we liked the different spelling.

 

[TheChairman]

After a short discussion we settled on “Gauge” we liked the different spelling.

Gauge is a noun. Gage is a name. As a mechanic, I approve of your choice.

 

[smoke_jumper]

Gauge is a noun. Gage is a name. As a mechanic, I approve of your choice.

Gauge is also a verb but whose counting

 

[Teegate]

Yea, lets not worry about how it is spelled here. To me any way you spell it is find.

 

[bobpbx]

By any standard, especially when you consider the father, I gauge Guage to be fine young man.

 

[RednekF350]

It's actually gage in this context.

When they studied the Albertson Branch (Brook) between 2004 and 2007 near my house they had very minimal structural components. They had a small foundation maybe 2' x 2' a pole with a solar panel and a stainless box. In the water there was a staff gage and a submerged pipe with a pitot tube attached. The gaging station collected stream heights, velocities and flow rates. I was really cool to be able to look at the data online.

USGS 01409410 Albertson Brook near Hammonton NJ

nwis.waterdata.usgs.gov

It amazed me that the equipment was never vandalized and it disappointed me that the staff gage, submerged pipe and foundation were left behind, essentially as litter, when the work was done.

The station looked similar to this arrangement.

 

[bobpbx]

It's actually gage in this context.

When they studied the Albertson Branch (Brook) between 2004 and 2007 near my house they had very minimal structural components. They had a small foundation maybe 2' x 2' a pole with a solar panel and a stainless box. In the water there was a staff gage and a submerged pipe with a pitot tube attached. The gaging station collected stream heights, velocities and flow rates. I was really cool to be able to look at the data online.

USGS 01409410 Albertson Brook near Hammonton NJ

nwis.waterdata.usgs.gov

It amazed me that the equipment was never vandalized and it disappointed me that the staff gage, submerged pipe and foundation were left behind, essentially as litter, when the work was done.

The station looked similar to this arrangement.

I disagree Scott. It's gauge. But you've had a civil engineering education, so I respect that, and I'll listen to your explanation. But also, what is the preferred name in use today?

 

[Boyd]

I disagree Scott. It's gauge.

Well, the USGS doesn't agree, they call them "gages" and that is how they are labeled on the topo map (look at the screenshot you posted).

USGS Streamgaging Network | U.S. Geological Survey

The USGS Groundwater and Streamflow Information Program supports the collection and (or) delivery of both streamflow and water-level information at approximately 8,500 sites and water-level information alone for more than 1,700 additional sites. The data are served online—most in near...

www.usgs.gov

No big deal, either way is correct, but why include a silent letter in a word when it isn't needed?

 

[RednekF350]

I disagree Scott. It's gauge. But you've had a civil engineering education, so I respect that, and I'll listen to your explanation. But also, what is the preferred name in use today?

If the USGS calls then gaging stations, that's good enough for me.

USGS Streamgaging Network | U.S. Geological Survey

The USGS Groundwater and Streamflow Information Program supports the collection and (or) delivery of both streamflow and water-level information at approximately 8,500 sites and water-level information alone for more than 1,700 additional sites. The data are served online—most in near...

www.usgs.gov