Murderer in the Pines !

RednekF350

RednekF350

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Feb 20, 2004
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Sleeping with my 12 ga. tonight.
Locked and loaded and within arms reach.
A double muderer, who killed a father and his 4 year old son, walked away from Ancora yesterday. He has "survival gear and camping equipment" and is being looked for in my woods.
Cops were parked just inside Wharton at the end of my street tonight for about an hour and a half. Ancora is about a mile and a half from here thru the woods.
I walked my normal nightly loop thru the area and saw nothing unusual.
Ancora's huggy-feely psychologists (read: crackpots) gave this s_ithead the freedom to walk the grounds unescorted AND gave him access to camping equpipment and survival gear.
I want to be committed so I an learn survival too!
I hope the chiggers are working their magic on this bastard.
Scott
 
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Badfish740

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Feb 19, 2005
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Ah buckshot, as far as I'm concerned there's no better home defense weapon. Funny-sometimes patients walk away from Trenton Psychiatric (there are some real sick pups in there-including the infamous lady who cut her mother's head off and threw it onto the steps of the Statehouse), but since it's not too far from Stuyvesant Avenue (Blood and Crip territory) in the Northwest part of the city, I'd worry more about the patients!
 
Furball1

Furball1

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Dec 11, 2005
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I have two 9mm handguns strategically placed in my home, loaded with rounds in the chambers, for some lucky bastard who would like to make an unsolicited and no-appointment visit. Here in FL we can shoot and ask questions later. In NJ, you probably have to first determine if you are in risk of deadly harm, ask permission to shoot the bastard and then have him sign a release form that he won't sue your ass afterwards. Remember, always aim and shoot to kill, this way they can't sue yeah.
 
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onehand

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Apr 11, 2005
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you guys that live in nj can't carry on your person, one of the first thing i did when i got a chance was go down to the county sheriffs office and got my carry licence took about 1/2 hour

now i carry a 9mm or a .380 most of the time !! you just never know, but up here a person is much safer than in the high crime state of nj
 
LARGO

LARGO

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Sep 7, 2005
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I've been waiting to see how this would shake out. Soon as it was on the news last eve', Ancora came right to mind but it's been awhile since an escape of any sort. I took precautions last night, checked firearms as well, and kept check on home today. I still remember a hunt or two in the 80's for serious criminal patients. As if the garden variety loony that walks off is fine and dandy. Aside from the foolishness of this fellow having walk-off privelages the general lack of alarm at Ancora kills me. This wasn't some "movie, over the fence thing". He was just allowed to stroll of whistling a tune. He wasn't even pictured last night and the one offered up today wasn't so good. I told my wife, you know everyone that walks, jogs or bikes on Pestletown road every day. You see an old man, you call the cops, sort out the profiling and hurt feelings later.
With little effort searching on him today I found him mentioned in two articles 12 years old. He has had these privelages for some time and his history at Marlboro was not good either. I'll be to the point... He beat a 27 year old man and a (4) year old child to death. Beat to death. Chew on that.

No amount of time especially for someone "mentally challenged" yet make no mistake this guy is no dummy, should allow for their decision to lighten up on his watch. His blame on the medication at the time is lame as well. The attitude that he is not dangerous amuses and terrifies me. Living close to Ancora this is in the back of our minds but an incident like this brings it forward. Mark my words, the facility will be heavy under the microscope for a while and then this will fade away and leniency will prevail again. How F'd up is that! I hope I'm right on this but I think he made off a little farther than back here in our woods. If you walk off those grounds you are a five minute walk to picking up a bus on the pike and then, see ya. There should be no walkoffs anyway, there ain't jack out there. Let them wander the yards... attended and watched.
If he is out here, perhaps some harm will come to him before he can get far. Or, when he is found perhaps it will be an unpleasant capture. One can only hope.It is not that he is looking to kill, I doubt that, but what hurt might he cause someone out of desperation for a hiding place or method to get farther away? Sorry for the rant, I am actually stopping now because my wife has to go to the shed and I don't want her out alone.

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LongIslandPiney

LongIslandPiney

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WTF did they allow a dangerous savage out on the loose? The folks behind this decision to allow him to walk unsupervised should face the music, maybe even serve some jail time.:mad:
 
Boyd

Boyd

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Hopefully they'll get the guy before anything bad happens.

When I first moved to my house on Atsion Rd in Medford 4 years ago I came home one evening and saw helicopters circling. Turned on the news, and it was that crazy guy who shot his mother for not buying him cigarettes, took off on a dirt bike and killed an innocent kid near Kings Grant. He lived just down the road from me, my neighbor knew the family.

It's tough to get away from these crazies!...
 
RednekF350

RednekF350

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Feb 20, 2004
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Pestletown, N.J.
Ancora has a pretty poor track record with escapes.
The Human Services PD, responsible for patrolling Ancora, appears to do a great job of cruising the Pump Branch Wawa and making sure no one fishes the lake in front of the hospital.
I had permission for a short time in the early 90's along with a friend of mine to fish that lake. You couldn't be there 3 minutes without the PD jumping on you.
It was one of the best bass ponds I have ever fished and no one, not even the patients, was allowed to fish it. Pity.
Maybe the escapee could have learned to fish for his food so he could survive a little longer in the big woods.
 
PinesExplr

PinesExplr

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Dec 7, 2005
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Does anyone know where exactly they are searching in the Pines? And how? Lots of homes that boarder pretty remote areas in Winslow, Hammonton, Atco, Medford, etc. as we know - curious if they are focusing in southwest portion of Wharton.
 
MarkBNJ

MarkBNJ

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Jun 17, 2007
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You have to wonder what the hell a double murderer is doing in a place like Ancora. I used to deliver med supplies there back in the 80's, and at least then you could walk away from that place pretty easily. Security was almost non-existent.

I don't understand the innate urge some have to try to rehabilitate or care for these people. There are so many places where compassion is more urgently needed, and more justifiably applied. This animal should be staring up at dim daylight through thick bars for the rest of his life, at best.
 
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Lorun

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Apr 10, 2004
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My sister back in highschool picked up a friends brother walking down the street she was driving. Turns out he was loco and had just escaped from Ancora. She did not find this out until after she droppped him off.

Mad, Mad, Mad world.
 
pinelandpaddler

pinelandpaddler

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Apr 6, 2004
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furball said:
I have two 9mm handguns strategically placed in my home, loaded with rounds in the chambers, for some lucky bastard who would like to make an unsolicited and no-appointment visit. Here in FL we can shoot and ask questions later. In NJ, you probably have to first determine if you are in risk of deadly harm, ask permission to shoot the bastard and then have him sign a release form that he won't sue your ass afterwards. Remember, always aim and shoot to kill, this way they can't sue yeah.
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Looks like we have another escapee.
 
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