Mystery UFO drone crash landed???

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The "experts" at the NY Post say it's probably a top secret black project to test drone capabilities over a heavily populated area. Kind of a drone version of Blue Thunder, maybe? :D

That wouldn't surprise me, although it seems really irresponsible to do that over populated areas with drones "as big as an SUV" while not telling the Army, FBI, FAA or governor.
 

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This is all over the news now. :ninja:

Republican New Jersey Representative Jeff Van Drew announced that the drones flying over his home state are from Iran. [...] "From very high sources, very qualified sources, very responsible sources, I'm going to tell you the real deal," Van Drew said. "Iran launched a mothership probably a month ago that contains these drones."

 
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This is all over the news now. :ninja:

Republican New Jersey Representative Jeff Van Drew announced that the drones flying over his home state are from Iran. [...] "From very high sources, very qualified sources, very responsible sources, I'm going to tell you the real deal," Van Drew said. "Iran launched a mothership probably a month ago that contains these drones."


I'm calling BS. They want all out war with Iran and Russia before Jan 20.
 
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The State Police deployed helicopters over Raritan Bay but could not detect drones, even with infrared cameras, according to Kanitra. As a result, State Police Col. Pat Callahan halted the helicopter deployments, citing concerns about potential danger, he said. Federal officials said they sent the state the most sophisticated piece of detection equipment they have, which still could not detect the drones.
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Now, they're trying to add drone-specific radar to it and believe it should be operational again in a few days, Kanitra said. Then, they'll send it back to New Jersey.

 
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Has anyone come across any compelling videos of these drones? The only videos I've seen depict airplanes and helicopters that were somehow misidentified.
 

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The simple fact that "WE THE PEOPLE OF NJ" don't know what they are IS the problem.
My first thought; where the hell is Homeland Security in this situation? I recall when they were created thinking; oh boy, another inflated beauracracy that won't be able to get out of its own way to meet these emerging challenges. But that was what they were created for! As soon as they formed, Airports clapped their hands in glee, because they no longer had to take care of security.
 
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My first thought; where the hell is Homeland Security in this situation?

They have been quoted in multiple articles as saying they don't know what the drones are but don't believe they're from a foreign country and don't appear to be a threat. Yeah... nice. I don't know that we can believe them, seems like there could be a variety of reasons why they would prefer not to say everything they know (at least not yet). But if they really don't know what these things are or where they come from after a whole month of confirmed sightings by military and law enforcement, IMO that's a problem! :clint:

The story seems to be gaining traction, it was one of the top stories on CNN this morning, evidently they showed some video but I was listening on Sirius/XM and didn't see it. Not any new information, but they said Jeff Van Drew would be on later and they would press him for the sources of his claims. I think he's been making the rounds of the news shows already, so doubt there will be any new info from him.
 

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There was a congressman from Florida on the Homeland Security committe on CSPAN this morning. After a hearing on this subject, he kept talking as if he was not in the federal government: "they have to get a handle on this...some of these agencies need to have more money to deal with this....etc, etc. Several callers challenged him on those stupid pronouncements..."yo, dude, YOU ARE the federal government, get busy on this". He said, "well, we need more info, we need several more hearings". That's crazy.
 
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Was a top story on the 8:00 AM news again, only caught the tail end on SiriusXM. No new information, but it's exactly this issue that is giving the story traction - frustration because state and local governments can't get any answers from federal agencies.
 
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I'm prepared

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CNN just did a story on this, the Governor said he spent most of yesterday in contact with Homeland Security, the White House and other federal agencies but nobody had any information. This is really crazy - by the Army's report above, the first confirmed sighting at Picatinny was almost a month ago now. If it's really true that they don't know anything (big IF there), does that mean small drones could drop explosives on a military base for a month and we would have no idea who was responsible or how to stop it?

Then there's this....

"More than a dozen drones followed a 47-foot Coast Guard boat Sunday night, while law enforcement tracked another 50 drones coming onto land from the ocean at Island State Park, Rep. Chris Smith said. Meanwhile, an FBI assistant director admitted that the agency doesn’t know who is behind the unidentified drones that are flying over New Jersey."

I've sat out at IBSP many of nights, usually once a week. I'm always seeing aircraft coming and going from the ocean. That's because two major aviation flyways cut right across the park.

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NORAD can track things as tiny as a tin can in space, it can just as easily track these aircraft. The FAA is able to track my 255g drone no problem.
 

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Guess that settles everything. Nothing to see here; move along, move along. :D

On Thursday afternoon, John Kirby, the White House spokesman on national security matters, told reporters that Homeland Security, the FBI and state and local law enforcement “have not been able to corroborate any of the reported visual sightings" of the drones. Upon reviewing images of the sightings, law enforcement officials have concluded “these are actually manned aircraft that are being operated lawfully" and that there have been no confirmed drone sightings in restricted airspace, Kirby said, adding that they have uncovered no malicious activity.

 

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where the hell is Homeland Security in this situation?

They issued this statement last night. The last sentence is interesting...
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Joint DHS/FBI Statement on Reports of Drones in New Jersey
Release Date: December 12, 2024

Today, the FBI and DHS jointly issued a statement on reported drone sightings in New Jersey:

“We have no evidence at this time that the reported drone sightings pose a national security or public safety threat or have a foreign nexus. The FBI, DHS and our federal partners, in close coordination with the New Jersey State Police, continue to deploy personnel and technology to investigate this situation and confirm whether the reported drone flights are actually drones or are instead manned aircraft or otherwise inaccurate sightings.

“Historically, we have experienced cases of mistaken identity, where reported drones are, in fact, manned aircraft or facilities. We are supporting local law enforcement in New Jersey with numerous detection methods but have not corroborated any of the reported visual sightings with electronic detection. To the contrary, upon review of available imagery, it appears that many of the reported sightings are actually manned aircraft, operating lawfully. There are no reported or confirmed drone sightings in any restricted air space. 

“We take seriously the threat that can be posed by unmanned aircraft systems (UAS), which is why law enforcement and other agencies continue to support New Jersey and investigate the reports. To be clear, they have uncovered no such malicious activity or intent at this stage. While there is no known malicious activity occurring in New Jersey, the reported sightings there do, however, highlight the insufficiency of current authorities."
 

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Almost makes it sounds like it’s government testing something. The last sentence leads me to believe it’s some sort of readiness test and we are not prepared for it. Just odd to test anything in NJ.
 
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