Oriental Rd

SuperChooch

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I’ve always wondered about this and I’m quite certain someone here will know the answer. :) As far as I can tell from maps, it appears that Oriental Rd in Tabernacle should be open all the way to Carranza. But if you’ve been there, you’ll know it is blocked on both ends and marked as private property. What am I mis-understanding about what the maps are telling me? Thanks in advance!
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You may want to read one of my previous posts at the link below.

The state did purchase property along that road and as far as I know it is still a public road. However, it has been closed so long you can't even drive it much less walk some of it. Jessica and I did walk the remote section. I suspect the gun clubs in that area either got permission years ago to close it off, or the owner of the house that burned on Carranza was able to get the road closed as well. I really don't know the full story.

 

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Thanks @Teegate. Interesting. On both ends, the posted signs are actually on the gates (as opposed to the actual private property on either side of the "road") That is what had me second guessing if it was actually a public road or not. I know someone that lived in that house that burned down, I'll have to ask about if they know any history.
 

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The Oriental Deer club actually owns property other than where the building is. That gated road takes you futher down Oriental road and then curves to the right and continues much further to their other property at this location.


Then that road even goes further and ends at the Jersey-Maine Deer Club. You can get to it by walking from the stone hill at the curve on Carranza but I would suggest you go in the winter. The property is mostly surround by brier making it pretty remote and very hard to get to in almost all directions. It is also gated and that makes me believe that since two different owners have property on the road, it is a public road all the way to Jersey-Maine.


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I have been there twice and on one of my visits someone was there but I failed to walk into the place and talk with them. I had a pretty good handle on the property line so I was not too concerned... but was cautious.

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The Oriental Deer club actually owns property other than where the building is. That gated road takes you futher down Oriental road and then curves to the right and continues much further to their other property at this location.


Then that road even goes further and ends at the Jersey-Maine Deer Club. You can get to it by walking from the stone hill at the curve on Carranza but I would suggest you go in the winter. The property is mostly surround by brier making it pretty remote and very hard to get to in almost all directions. It is also gated and that makes me believe that since two different owners have property on the road, it is a public road all the way to Jersey-Maine.


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I have been there twice and on one of my visits someone was there but I failed to walk into the place and talk with them. I had a pretty good handle on the property line so I was not too concerned... but was cautious.

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I wonder what this is to the NE. Look like they made it with a giant compass.
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It is private or I would have been there. We were right by it when walking Oriental Road. It appears it is owned by a husband and wife but they had a deed made up to divide the ownership rights in half, with each owning half of it. It is also interesting that the deed says the rails I found years ago on their property line and Wharton are trolley rails.


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Was wondering the same thing! But it's weird, that does not show on the current HERE or Mapbox imagery, which is usually pretty recent. There's a circular clearing but no "compass".

https://boydsmaps.com/#19.00/39.803418/-74.685307/hereHybrid/0.00/0.00

https://boydsmaps.com/#19.00/39.803418/-74.685307/mbxhybrid/0.00/0.00

Looks like it might be more like that in 2017 and 2019, but those are lower-resolution imagery, so it's hard to tell.
Very odd to have a spot so round out there.
 
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