Hahaha... sounds like Rob's scientific process at work.
I wish everyone got a public hearing like that
ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton
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Hahaha... sounds like Rob's scientific process at work.
I wish everyone got a public hearing like that
I've written, my wife has written & I've been asking everyone I've talked to to write letters too. Dont think that is enough though, but still trying to figure out what to can be done next. Feel like a counter message that says responsible use of the forest (ie conservation) is a good thing, needs to get out vs the PPA's position, but that won't change forest service policy. It's the politicians, etc. that need to get the message. (But I'd be willing to hand out flyers too)
I truly believe that a large majority, forest user or not, would favor the conservation message and would not agree with locking out responsible users. Need to show the politicians and higher ups in the forest service that is what the public truly wants. However, we are going to need cooperation between groups that may not have always been comfortable with one another - can the hunters, enduro riders, horse people, hikers kayakers, jeepers, etc. work together to do this?
I know we stand a chance if we work together, and will absolutely fail if we do not.
I truly believe that a large majority, forest user or not, would favor the conservation message and would not agree with locking out responsible users. Need to show the politicians and higher ups in the forest service that is what the public truly wants. However, we are going to need cooperation between groups that may not have always been comfortable with one another - can the hunters, enduro riders, horse people, hikers kayakers, jeepers, etc. work together to do this?
I know we stand a chance if we work together, and will absolutely fail if we do not.
I know it has been a little quite, but the needle is moving, ever so slightly. I mentioned in an earlier comment that I got back more of a response from my Senator than just the stand form letter. They told me that the DEP are talking internally and are going to respond to the Senator's about how to address our concerns. Dave's Facebook group is up to 2600 people in 48 hours and we have continued to shout the message of contacting your legislature. I got into the private FB groups for Shamong, Tabernacle and Medford and posted the legislator message and got almost exclusively positive remarks. People showed up in droves on the PPA's Facebook page, respectfully taking issue with the action and their rating went from around 5 stars to 3.5 stars in about 2 days. That is a pretty big deal for them. The Facebook page for Pinelands Adventures has been decimated. They not have a 1. something star rating. Both the PPA and Pinelands Adventures folks had started deleting comments and PM'ing people who made negative remarks. This means something to them. The DEP has closed ranks. I have ceased to get any responses back from any of the people I was contacting. (and i was contacting several) We just need to keep it up. The DEP and PPA do not want this negative press. The DEP does not want to be justifying itself against the little guy on TV like it had to do yesterday. Keep it up!
We like to paddle the skit from Carranza Road to the bridge over the Skit at HF, but that is to be closed. Many go shorter and get out at the breached causeway. It is a very popular run.
In addition to writing your state legislators, I also suggest that you attend the next meeting of your local town council or committee. Ask your local government officials to pass a resolution opposing the road closure plan being implemented by the Wharton SF superintendent, and to forward copies of the resolution to your state legislators and the governor's office.
You and everyone else here and there on Dave's site deserve much of the credit for all of this. Well done!
How disgraceful is that where you can no longer do a run because your ending point does not have vehicle access.
Interesting thought. I would have never known that could be done. Have you ever been on a town council?
A popular stop for me was always Locks bridge. I could paddle upstream one way and back down another and wind up at the same spot. Was always a nice way to kill a few hours and didn't need another truck to pick up. Walking it in now doesn't make it doable anymore.
Yes, resolutions such as these are commonly used in situations where an issue affects several municipalities, the goal being of course to have as many municipal governments as possible express opposition to the closures on behalf of their residents. I'll work on drafting a sample resolution.
You need to be let in to view it. Ask here for that permission and I am sure they will let you in Ed.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/930187020358299/
Thanks for sharing the link guy. I just asked to join. Once in I will get it out to my club and friends and family.
Thanks, I'm in!Ed, if you PM your name on Facebook (Ed Campbell, maybe?) I'll invite you.
Here's a petition to make it super easy to let your elected officials know how you feel about this.
http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/restore-fair-access-to.fb51?source=c.fb&r_by=14033517
http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/restore-fair-access-to.fb51?source=c.fb&r_by=14033517
Sorry I am not there but I am not into Facebook. I don't want people I knew 40 years ago contacting me. There are plenty of friends from this site who I have faith in that are there. Ben I am sure is there... and with Gabe and Ed now there that is good enough for me.
Ben I will be posting that on my facebook tomorrow morning to get maxium exposure and will be emailing it out to a mailing list. I have already signed it. Thanks for putting that together.