https://www.nps.gov/wrst/learn/management/subsistence-eligibility.htm
I don't know of any piney that does not fit this qualification. I certainly do.
I don't know of any piney that does not fit this qualification. I certainly do.
PB National Park?
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Your referring to a document specific to AK and Wrangell-St Elias, another kumquat. It differs for other parks and not all parks are included in the subsistence program. But besides that, and using your 'qualification', many hunters that hunt within the pines would not qualify as they do not live within the pines or an adjacent community. Kumquat #3.
Let me know when your 13.44 is approved.
You may want to review the attached AK specific link.
http://www.subsistmgtinfo.org/basics.htm
What I am trying to communicate is that not all National Parks have the same rules, they are subject to local concerns and customs. In my opinion, traditional practices such as hunting should be taken into account during any federal land management designation or regulation.
Wharton also is subject to local customs and concerns. But there are those who don't give a shit that we do.
I am surprised that this conversation is ongoing as there is zero chance of the Pine Barrens becoming a National Park. Nancy Wittenbergs statement was correct that the last chance for the PB to be a national Park was at the time of the designation of the Pine Barrens as a Federal Reserve or prior to that date such as when Wharton was originally acquired by the State. Far too many inholdings, private land ownership. and entrenched local interests as well as prohibitively high purchase costs. The "petition" was poorly worded and lacks the support of the Pinelands Commission as well as local stakeholders. Its dead in the water.
Actually I'm craving an apple and kumquat salad right now
Well at least it's in good company...
http://www.wired.com/2016/08/enough-with-the-petitions/
"Change.org has lately become the unintentional catalyst for a futile, delusional, gimme-gimme-more form of fan entitlement, one in which a relatively small group of people can easily draw attention to a non-issue that’s not only trivial, but, for the most part, non-actionable"
It's an interesting topic. Note likely at all, but still interesting. I think the petition author may have been a student, and she was able to get almost 6,000 people to sign her petition. Even if they don't know the nitty gritty of the CMP and the history of preservation efforts, the signers want better protections for the PNR.
Well at least it's in good company...
http://www.wired.com/2016/08/enough-with-the-petitions/
"Change.org has lately become the unintentional catalyst for a futile, delusional, gimme-gimme-more form of fan entitlement, one in which a relatively small group of people can easily draw attention to a non-issue that’s not only trivial, but, for the most part, non-actionable"
"But at its best, the site—and its users—reflect the way petitions can spur discussion and transformation, particularly on the hyper-local level, which is often where the most fixable problems can be found."
I see the value from the discussion.
You may be right, perhaps this petition is an example of "the best" at change.org. Personally, it strikes me an attempt to "fix" something that "ain't broke". 
It's tempting to write a Pinelands Preserve petition - not through Change.org for more Federal and State funds to be allocated for additional Park Police, fire fighting support, road maintenance, historic structure rehabilitation, and purchase of land from willing private sellers. $10 million in additional annual funds could do an awful lot in filling some of the critical gaps. In some State Parks outside of New Jersey they have volunteers during peak season who work as State park campground monitors (checking for permits, answering questions, warning folks of improper behavior, etc) these volunteers usually receive free camping permits for the duration of there volunteer stay. This would free up Park Police for back road patrolling and high priority work. Any other thoughts on what other critical items need to be addressed?
for more Federal and State funds to be allocated for additional Park Police, fire fighting support, road maintenance, historic structure rehabilitation, and purchase of land from willing private sellers. $10 million in additional annual funds could do an awful lot in filling some of the critical gaps. In some State Parks outside of New Jersey they have volunteers during peak season who work as State park campground monitors (checking for permits, answering questions, warning folks of improper behavior, etc) these volunteers usually receive free camping permits for the duration of there volunteer stay. This would free up Park Police for back road patrolling and high priority work. Any other thoughts on what other critical items need to be addressed?
It's tempting to write a Pinelands Preserve petition - not through Change.org
A similar volunteer structure was in place in Fish & Wildlife some years back that began in 1896. The volunteers were unpaid deputy CO's, but the program was abandoned, I think for budget issues.
Parks & Forests already has a volunteer program in place, has for many years, called Volunteers in Parks or VIP. Individuals and organizations participate. I joined many years ago. But it all depends on how these folks are utilized, if at all. Also each year there are seasonal jobs offered that fill many of the responsibilities you suggest; again, it depends on how they are utilized. You also have the 501c(3) organizations, some help, some don't, in raising funds for Parks & Forests. And yet again, it depends on how those funds are allocated.
http://www.state.nj.us/dep/parksandforests/parks/volunteers.html
http://www.state.nj.us/dep/parksandforests/parks/jobs.html
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The problem is the Feds will not care if you were willing or not, they would go after whatever they wanted. Best we keep them in Washington.
I agree...............however my comment was in reference to Federal funds being allocated to the State for purchasing tracts of land (via the Green Acres fund) from Private sellers.
Not trying to start a land use debate but this is a great idea. From my experiences I only ever encounter park police and rangers when camping or on roads that lead to the camps. To them this is probably the best use of their time because it is more likely they will catch someone cracking a beer at a campground then tearing up a backroad.
I forgot that I had used MoveOn.org for the MAP petition, not Change.org.
My comment about being a liberal and partisan politics sucking still stands.
My comment about being a liberal and partisan politics sucking still stands.
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