Pine snakes

[Boyd]

Here's an old thread from 2017, before it was released.

Pine Barrens Film - Final production work

"An experimental documentary exploring the landscape, people, folklore and perception of the New Jersey Pine Barrens. Directed by David Scott Kessler." Five years in the making. Till this point fully self funded by Director and his peer group. Final production work to be completed. If you are...

forums.njpinebarrens.com

 

[bobpbx]

Good catch Boyd. The snake is in that trailer at 1:54. Not as clear as the film, but....actually if you make it full screen, it shows good.

 

[stiltzkin]

I didn't think this film was out yet. I'll have to give it a watch.

 

[NJChileHead]

Bob I'll call that snake at 1:54 as a timber rattler, although it looks more yellow phase than what we normally see in the pines.

 

[bobpbx]

Bob I'll call that snake at 1:54 as a timber rattler, although it looks more yellow phase than what we normally see in the pines.

Really? That's interesting. I thought it looked odd to be a pine snake. If you get a chance to watch the movie free, do so. The shot is longer and brighter.

 

[Boyd]

If you get a chance to watch the movie free, do so.

You said you watched it on Prime, I think. I have Prime and it shows as a $5 rental or $18 purchase for me.

 

[manumuskin]

This one Al.

The Pine Barrens

The Pine Barrens is an experimental documentary portrait of the New Jersey Pinelands by artist David Scott Kessler featuring the music of the Ruins of Friendship Orchestra.

www.pinebarrensfilm.com

This must be the trailer.no snake in it,it's not fourteen minutes long.Oh well,can't identify a snake I can;t see but needless to say pine snakes can indeed swim though they do it to travel not because their food is there or they love the water.I swim Because I love the water.

 

[bobpbx]

You said you watched it on Prime, I think. I have Prime and it shows as a $5 rental or $18 purchase for me.

It actually said $0.00 for me. Maybe a certain amount were free. I'll let you know if they charged me.

PS: it may be that I had entertainment credits from allowing them to ship things later than I'm entitled to.

 

[bobpbx]

This must be the trailer.no snake in it,it's not fourteen minutes long.Oh well,can't identify a snake I can;t see but needless to say pine snakes can indeed swim though they do it to travel not because their food is there or they love the water.I swim Because I love the water.

Al, go to post #21 in this thread from Boyd. He found the trailer and it's in there at 1:54.

 

[Gibby]

I am going to say that the snake in the video is a Northern Pine. If you look closely at the 1:54 mark, you can see the taper in the tail with no rattle.

Pine snakes are incredible hunters. I have seen them swimming in a cranberry bog chasing after mice along the bank. I have also seen them forty feet up a pine tree eating hatchlings in a robin's nest.

Speaking of no rattles, the only time I was spooked by a snake was when I was near the Costello school. I saw a timber with no rattle swimming in the Roberts branch just off the bridge. So much for a warning! I think Dragon was with me or we met up just afterwards. Just the thought of that snake not having a rattle scared me somewhat.

 

[bobpbx]

I am going to say that the snake in the video is a Northern Pine. If you look closely at the 1:54 mark, you can see the taper in the tail with no rattle.

I don't know Gibby....I just don't know. I don't see a tail so I'm going with Mark (NJchilehead) for now that it's a timber. I didn't like the look of it as a Pine Snake from the start.

 

[Gibby]

I don't know Gibby....I just don't know. I don't see a tail so I'm going with Mark (NJchilehead) for now that it's a timber. I didn't like the look of it as a Pine Snake from the start.

Fair enough. I just think it is unusual behavior for a Timber and I don’t see the dark colored fade in the tail.

 

[NJChileHead]

@bobpbx @Gibby I'm really stuck on this identification, and don't really have any arguments against Gibby's (and your) position that it's a pine.

 

[bobpbx]

@bobpbx @Gibby I'm really stuck on this identification, and don't really have any arguments against Gibby's (and your) position that it's a pine.

Yeah, it's all conjecture at this point. It seemed a lot more clear in the movie vs the trailer.

 

[manumuskin]

Yep thats a pine snake but it's not swimming.

 

[bobpbx]

Yep thats a pine snake but it's not swimming.

What do you mean not swimming? Do you mean because the lily pad vegetation is supportive?

 

[manumuskin]

What do you mean not swimming? Do you mean because the lily pad vegetation is supportive?

I didn't even realize that was Lily pads I thought it was hard ground but yes he is not swimming or most of his body would be under water.Cottonmouths which don't live in NJ routinely swim on top of the water but can dive when they want to but just about every other snake swims with it's body just under the surface occasionally breaking water with their heads periscoping to look around.Thats how down south you can tell if it's a water snake or moccasin,if it's floating on top leave it alone.