I was reading posts about salmanders and was wondering if the old halfway clay pits in greenwood forest would be possibly a good spot to find them at? Now I know that if it was nobody would post it anyway and neither would I as there might be that jerk out there that would go and collect them all. I am just interested in herps and would like to find one as I have never found one before in the pines. Thanks for any help Dave
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Oh really. In the pines? What kind did you find? When I went on a camping trip in 8th grade up north jersey we found them under damp logs rocks and leaf litter. I don't remember what kind they were but I remember they were black with a red stripe down the sides.
Oh really. In the pines? What kind did you find? When I went on a camping trip in 8th grade up north jersey we found them under damp logs rocks and leaf litter. I don't remember what kind they were but I remember they were black with a red stripe down the sides.
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i was hoping that someone that knew anything about them could possibly private message me
i was hoping that someone that knew anything about them could possibly private message me
Daved,
I can't offer much more info than Bigfoot did. I find them all the time in the/under the wood pile on my property. I would suspect this time of year would not be the best for looking for them as you might disrupt their hibernation. In the spring I think you can look just about anywhere that seems like a suitable environment. Bobbleton on this forum is an expert on them. When he reads this he might have some suggestions for you. Good Luck!
Jeff
I can't offer much more info than Bigfoot did. I find them all the time in the/under the wood pile on my property. I would suspect this time of year would not be the best for looking for them as you might disrupt their hibernation. In the spring I think you can look just about anywhere that seems like a suitable environment. Bobbleton on this forum is an expert on them. When he reads this he might have some suggestions for you. Good Luck!
Jeff
I'm definatly no expert, but I might be able to help.
Dave--
I'm not familiar with the area you're talking about, but your question depends alot on what species you're looking for. The salamanders you found in North jersey were probably redback salamanders which--as has been previously stated--you can find under almost any clutter or leaflitter. They're not as easy to come by as in north jersey, but they're definatly there. One good rule of thumb is that you're alot more likely to find them under a log in the middle of the woods than you are under a piece of plywood in an open sandpit.
Any other salamander you'd find in north jersey is pretty much nonexistant south of monmouth county, so i wouldn't count on any of those. The few species tolerant to the low pH in the pines are pretty scarce as well---and at that you'd have to know about a specific breeding pool.
As far as redbacks . . . with the weather we've been having this winter (mid 30's-high 50's) you shouldn't have problems finding them and dont' really need to worry about disturbing them---as long as you make sure to replace the cover (log, trash, whatever) exactly how you found it and leave the animal where it was found also.
Also--be careful not to handle the salamanders with your bare skin. Their porous skin is their only means of respiration and will absorb whatever is on your hands--so the natural oils and unnatural chemicals on your skin (soap, cologne, nicote, etc) can really harm them.
-Bob
Dave--
I'm not familiar with the area you're talking about, but your question depends alot on what species you're looking for. The salamanders you found in North jersey were probably redback salamanders which--as has been previously stated--you can find under almost any clutter or leaflitter. They're not as easy to come by as in north jersey, but they're definatly there. One good rule of thumb is that you're alot more likely to find them under a log in the middle of the woods than you are under a piece of plywood in an open sandpit.
Any other salamander you'd find in north jersey is pretty much nonexistant south of monmouth county, so i wouldn't count on any of those. The few species tolerant to the low pH in the pines are pretty scarce as well---and at that you'd have to know about a specific breeding pool.
As far as redbacks . . . with the weather we've been having this winter (mid 30's-high 50's) you shouldn't have problems finding them and dont' really need to worry about disturbing them---as long as you make sure to replace the cover (log, trash, whatever) exactly how you found it and leave the animal where it was found also.
Also--be careful not to handle the salamanders with your bare skin. Their porous skin is their only means of respiration and will absorb whatever is on your hands--so the natural oils and unnatural chemicals on your skin (soap, cologne, nicote, etc) can really harm them.
-Bob
The ones I remember finding in north jersey were all black with a red stripe on each side. Now I could be wrong as it was a long time ago and I looked through a field guide and couldn't find any that looked like that. I am not an expert or anything like that. As far as about clay pits I was thinking that the water would not be as acidic as cedar water so I was thinking that they would be a good spot to find marbled salmanders possibly. Thanks Dave
If they have not been run over by the four wheelers that have trashed every clay pit I have seen...
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Here is a Redbacked Salamander from Bucks County Pa, taken 1/31/06.
And here is the same species, lead phase.
Common outside of the pines, I call these "the usual suspects" for this time of year cause usually they are the first herp you see each year. In the pines I have found marbled, reds and tigers only.
Here is a Redbacked Salamander from Bucks County Pa, taken 1/31/06.
And here is the same species, lead phase.
Common outside of the pines, I call these "the usual suspects" for this time of year cause usually they are the first herp you see each year. In the pines I have found marbled, reds and tigers only.
I found a Salamander in my BackYard, help!
I 've found a nice salamander in my Yard, I was digging and suddenly it came out. It is a brown one, black dots and two black lines on each side of its back. My backyard is very dry. It is usual find them in our yards?
I live in West Orange, NJ. I would like what type of salamander is it. Since I found it in my BackYard... How can I keep it? I mean... How should be a nice place for it? my son like it too much and I really want to keep it. Actually I have it with some little rocks and few water but I guess since I found it in the soil should I be keep it in water?
Help me to set the proper house for it.
This salamander should eat the same eat for turtles or frogs that petshops sells??
Thanks
I 've found a nice salamander in my Yard, I was digging and suddenly it came out. It is a brown one, black dots and two black lines on each side of its back. My backyard is very dry. It is usual find them in our yards?
I live in West Orange, NJ. I would like what type of salamander is it. Since I found it in my BackYard... How can I keep it? I mean... How should be a nice place for it? my son like it too much and I really want to keep it. Actually I have it with some little rocks and few water but I guess since I found it in the soil should I be keep it in water?
Help me to set the proper house for it.
This salamander should eat the same eat for turtles or frogs that petshops sells??
Thanks