Stage Roads to/through Cedar Bridge

[ebsi2001]

In his seminal work, Father Henry Charlton Beck reported that TWO stage roads went to/through Cedar Bridge (More Forgotton Towns of Southern New Jersey, Rutgers University Press, 1963, paperbound edition, p. 83.).

From "...a map of New Jersey, issued in 1834, the principal route to Barnegat was shown through Bordentown, Recklesstown, Fooltown or Georgetown, Penny Hill, Mary Ann Forge, Mount Misery, and Old Half Way." (Beck, Ibid.)This route is quite apparent, today, as for much of its length, it parallels Route 72. It is the same road that has garnered the interests of Scott W. and Guy Thompson.

However, there was a second route, that went to/through Cedar Bridge, too: "At Cedar Bridge this highway, built by order of the Crown, converged with another aproaching from Burlington, through Mount Holly and Ong's Hat." (Beck, Ibid.)

Can anyone "point" me to the 1834 map that Father Beck is referring to? On more modern maps (USGS or those new aerial/topographic maps or tax maps) can anyone trace that second stage route, today?

ebsi

 

[Jerseyman]

Ebsi:

While there were several New Jersey maps published in atlases during 1834, I think the one that The Right Reverend refers to is the map included with Thomas Gordon's 1834 Gazetteer of New Jersey. It seems most plausible that Beck would have used this map and the accompanying volume in his research. The other maps would not have come so easily to him unless he had visited some large and formidable repositories.

Best regards,
Jerseyman

P.S. I think Beck's finest work is Jersey Genesis!

 

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P.S. I think Beck's finest work is Jersey Genesis!

There are members here, or former members here, who would disagree. And then there is bobpbx

Read the bottom review first.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/0813510155/102-9310699-2553758

Guy

 

[diggersw]

Ebsi,
I just looked at the 1833 Thomas Gordon and compared it to my USGS. It would appear that the other post road you detailed is, at least in part, now Route 72. And, that Ong's hat is now near Four Mile (closer to the State Hospital). I hope that this is a help. Also, in one of my other posts, regarding ROG, the 1833 I mention is the map above. The Mill at Cedar Bridge is located on this map. For information about this map, please go to http://historicals.ncd.noaa.gov/historicals/histmap.asp. Hope this helps.
Scott W.

 

[Teegate]

Thta road is show on many maps as Buddtown road. I recently acquired a 1919 survey map that also calls it that. And in 1924 the NJ Fire Service called it that somewhat.

Guy

 

[woodjin]

There are members here, or former members here, who would disagree. And then there is bobpbx

Read the bottom review first.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/0813510155/102-9310699-2553758

Guy

Not to get off the subject, but that was a great review Bob wrote. I love that book. It ranks high with me.

Jeff

 

[bobpbx]

I glad you and Guy enjoyed it Jeff. I could not leave the first review stand there as the only one for people to see and believe as factual. Jersey Genesis is so much more than that.

Another great book I like is "Down Jersey" by Cornelius Weygandt.

 

[ebsi2001]

Father Beck and Jersey Genesis --- Salt Hay Farming

There are members here, or former members here, who would disagree. And then there is bobpbx

Read the bottom review first.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/0813510155/102-9310699-2553758

Guy

Thanks, Guy!

Of the two reviews, I liked bobpbx's best. Since Bob likes a good story, here's a "fresh" one...

Re: "Beck does an excellent job introducing us to the "Down Jersey" folk who lived along the Mullica River in simpler times; Charlie Weber, the last salt hay farmer who.."rolls mosquitoes off his sun-armored arms as if he were rolling down his sleeves";..."

Yesterday, (on the 17th) I met a distant relative for an "outing" in "The Pines." My guide, a very agile 92--year old retiree, told me about his father, who was "farmed--out" at the age of 6 years (!) to a salt hay farmer for 5 cents a day... He told me, they would paint the horses' legs with boiled shark liver oil, to keep off the greenheads. One of the jobs my guide's father had was to prepare the shark liver "oil." He would wait until the bunker fishermen made port, and then he would then get the shark livers from them, take them home to his mother, who would let them simmer on the back of the stove. "The family wasn't any too keen about his job then, when they saw him a'comin' with them shark livers!" he said.

ebsi

 

[ebsi2001]

Thomas Gordon's 1834 Gazetteer of New Jersey

Ebsi:

While there were several New Jersey maps published in atlases during 1834, I think the one that The Right Reverend refers to is the map included with Thomas Gordon's 1834 Gazetteer of New Jersey. It seems most plausible that Beck would have used this map and the accompanying volume in his research. The other maps would not have come so easily to him unless he had visited some large and formidable repositories.

Best regards,
Jerseyman

P.S. I think Beck's finest work is Jersey Genesis!

Jerseyman,

Many thanks for your analysis. I certainly shall take a gaze at Thomas Gordon's 1834 Gazetteer!

I've read most of Father Beck's books on South Jersey, but, I must say, it never crossed my mind to "rank" them...

ebsi

 

[bobpbx]

Thanks, Guy!

Of the two reviews, I liked bobpbx's best. Since Bob likes a good story, here's a "fresh" one...

Re: "Beck does an excellent job introducing us to the "Down Jersey" folk who lived along the Mullica River in simpler times; Charlie Weber, the last salt hay farmer who.."rolls mosquitoes off his sun-armored arms as if he were rolling down his sleeves";..."

Yesterday, (on the 17th) I met a distant relative for an "outing" in "The Pines." My guide, a very agile 92--year old retiree, told me about his father, who was "farmed--out" at the age of 6 years (!) to a salt hay farmer for 5 cents a day... He told me, they would paint the horses' legs with boiled shark liver oil, to keep off the greenheads. One of the jobs my guide's father had was to prepare the shark liver "oil." He would wait until the bunker fishermen made port, and then he would then get the shark livers from them, take them home to his mother, who would let them simmer on the back of the stove. "The family wasn't any too keen about his job then, when they saw him a'comin' with them shark livers!" he said.

ebsi

That is a good story! My daughter rides a horse and the flies torment them badly. They shiver all day shaking them off. They have sprays and goop for sores, but I never heard about shark liver oil. Must have been quite a sight. I'm bothered a lot by pine flies when out in the summer. I wear a net when its really bad.

 

[foofoo]

this mite help http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.TextId?hvarTextId=52165&hvarTarget=search&cmCat=SearchResults

 

[ebsi2001]

The "Old Salt Haymen's Greenhead Repellent,"

My daughter rides a horse and the flies torment them badly. They shiver all day shaking them off. They have sprays and goop for sores, but I never heard about shark liver oil. Must have been quite a sight. I'm bothered a lot by pine flies when out in the summer. I wear a net when its really bad.

bobpbx,

I was hoping that some young entrepreneur would "cook--up" a batch of the "Old Salt Haymen's Greenhead Repellent," open--up a stand at the corner of Routes 9 and 72, and sell it to the "shoebies" on their way to "Beach Haven West."

That stuff must have smelled good, too! :jeffd:

ebsi

 

[ebsi2001]

Repellants

this mite help http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.TextId?hvarTextId=52165&hvarTarget=search&cmCat=SearchResults

foofoo,

Sure you don't have something to do with "Smokey Stover"?

Given a chance, I'd probably opt for the shark liver repellant --- it's all natural, and I'd have my choice of seats anywhere...:rofl:

Notary Sojac!

ebsi

 

[ebsi2001]

Ebsi,
I just looked at the 1833 Thomas Gordon... . ...in one of my other posts, regarding ROG, the 1833 I mention is the map above. The Mill at Cedar Bridge is located on this map. For information about this map, please go to http://historicals.ncd.noaa.gov/historicals/histmap.asp. Hope this helps.
Scott W.

Dear Scott,

Many thanks for the link. I have tried, in vain, several times, over the past few days, to access the 1833/1844 Thomas Gordon map at this site... Maybe I don't have all of the software I need? Any suggestions?

ebsi

 

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Dear Scott,

Many thanks for the link. I have tried, in vain, several times, over the past few days, to access the 1833/1844 Thomas Gordon map at this site... Maybe I don't have all of the software I need? Any suggestions?

ebsi

There is no need to search for it at that site, since Ben has it available right on this site. Open the below link, double click on the map and wait until it loads, and then download it to your computer. If you have any problems write me directly and I will email it to you.

http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=250&pos=14

Guy

 

[ebsi2001]

1833/1834 Thomas Gordon Map

There is no need to search for it at that site, since Ben has it available right on this site. Open the below link, double click on the map and wait until it loads, and then download it to your computer. If you have any problems write me directly and I will email it to you.

http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=250&pos=14

Guy

Thanks for the link, Guy. Yes, I had already found the map on this site, but it loaded so s l o w l y, that I gave up on it, especially since the map loads--in from the State's northernmost boundary...

Scott's link seemed quicker, but, despite all my efforts, over a period of several days, I was unable to obtain a positive response...

I think, if I were to attempt a download from this site, that my ISP might "pull the plug" on my connexion, before the download was complete...

Could I download it to a 3--1/2" floppy, or is the file too large?

ebsi

 

[Teegate]

Thanks for the link, Guy. Yes, I had already found the map on this site, but it loaded so s l o w l y, that I gave up on it, especially since the map loads--in from the State's northernmost boundary...

Scott's link seemed quicker, but, despite all my efforts, over a period of several days, I was unable to obtain a positive response...

I think, if I were to attempt a download from this site, that my ISP might "pull the plug" on my connexion, before the download was complete...

Could I download it to a 3--1/2" floppy, or is the file too large?

ebsi

This site is as fast as that site, the probelm is the file is large. If you want the map I can make is smaller for you so that you can download it faster. If you want that, post back.

Guy