Here is the rifle you will be seeing in the deer stands soon 
http://emuse.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/16789
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http://emuse.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/16789
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T-Rex Rifle
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Its probably just me, but some of those videos are embarassingly juvenile. Bunch of teens hanging around in mommy's house acting like idiots. Where is America headed anyway?
that is a bit scary that a bozo like that would be allowed to hold a firearm, but even with training it will do some people no good if they have no common sense
This one is even worse. It takes 4 guns to bring down this King of the Beast. I wished he had taken the guys head off. I had no idea people actually go out to kill lion these days. It seems so, perverse.
http://emuse.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/615
http://emuse.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/615
comments like that scare me.
to value an animals life over a human is just weird. you guys kill me. he was legally hunting . things go wrong thats real life. do you spend all day looking for this stuff. there is a need to control all kinds of surplus critters. the cute fuzzy ones and the big old mean ones. some are protected to the point they have impacted villages(like elephants and others) and rather than have the park wardens gun them down and left to rot the hunts are sold ( called conservation). people do eat lion. i have been to south africa AND NOTHING IS WASTED. if you cant stomach it just move on. as far as the 50 caliber rifle its not my cup of tea for hunting but if they are doing animal control and are trained to shoot that distance so be it. this is no different than the sniper police used to control deer payed by me and you in our great state of new jersey. the difference using hunting to control is the animal IS RESPECTED AND EATEN RATHER THAN THROWN AWAY. now why not go back and put cheese in your mouse traps and control your own local surplus all you who are the hippo critts. better yet the next time you chow down on that tuna sandwich that was caught in a net and left to slowly sufficate for days just bring your concious rightful self back to the internet to look for more stuff everyone else does wrong but im not doing anything wrong.(nice run on!) seriously though i think some have issues and look for comfort on this board. kinda sad. its the same old story... now for the borage of " i know this person or that and they are not anti hunting." yea o.k. i got some swamp land for rent.
so if apex predators (like lions) control prey populations, and WE take it upon ourselves to control the predator populations (to ensure they don't get out of hand of course . . ), who controls our populations? i'm pretty sure its quite far out of hand. maybe we should declare a "human season" and gun down unarmed people for that same generous gift of "population control" that we so graciously give any animal that's fun to shoot - just as long as we make sure to eat everything.
guess hypocrisy is only okay when it favors human stupidity.
guess hypocrisy is only okay when it favors human stupidity.
Animal -
1 : any of a kingdom (Animalia) of living things including many-celled organisms and often many of the single-celled ones (as protozoans) that typically differ from plants in having cells without cellulose walls, in lacking chlorophyll and the capacity for photosynthesis, in requiring more complex food materials (as proteins), in being organized to a greater degree of complexity, and in having the capacity for spontaneous movement and rapid motor responses to stimulation
1 : any of a kingdom (Animalia) of living things including many-celled organisms and often many of the single-celled ones (as protozoans) that typically differ from plants in having cells without cellulose walls, in lacking chlorophyll and the capacity for photosynthesis, in requiring more complex food materials (as proteins), in being organized to a greater degree of complexity, and in having the capacity for spontaneous movement and rapid motor responses to stimulation
Argh...I swore I wouldn't touch this one with a 10 foot pole but I just can't resist. First off, again, we don't know, as Paul Harvey says, the REST of the story. What I did find out is that about 70 humans a year are killed by lions in Tanzania alone, and between 200 and 400 humans a year are killed by various wildlife encounters (hippos, elephants, lions, snakes, etc...), which seems shocking to us as Westerners of course. However, when you consider the rapid population growth in Africa, the living conditions, etc...it's easy to see how the 3rd world can have these problems.
I would imagine that in colonial America many people lost their lives to mountain lions, black/brown bears, various snakes, and other dangerous animals that lived in as close a proximity as lions in Africa to people in Africa. Here in the Garden State, someone may go into anaphylactic shock after getting stung by a bee, or may be killed by a deer coming through the windsheild at 50 mph, or rarer yet, bitten by a copperhead/mauled by a black bear, but we have no parity with the level of human/animal encounters in Africa.
Getting back to the lions, if anyone is familiar with the movie "The Ghost and the Darkness," (good flick by the way) you're familiar with an (albeit dramatized) account of the actual "Tsavo Man Eaters," which terrorized a camp of railroad workers working on the Uganda Railway in 1898. Over the course of about two months, two lions had killed about 140 workers, mostly dragging them from their tents at night as they slept. After the lions were killed by Lt. Col. John Henry Patterson, they were examined and found to have been abnormally heavy (and therefore slower than an average lion) and had poor gums and teeth. Of course, they turned to the easiest prey to catch-men. The fastest man on earth runs about 13 mph slower than a spooked zebra or gazelle, not to mention that these animals tend to travel in packs.
So here's my take. Lions aren't killing because they are overpopulated. SOME lions kill humans because they are either fat, lazy, old, their dental hygiene isn't up to snuff, or some combination thereof. Therefore, I don't believe that pure sport hunting of lions is necessary or prudent, whether the entire animal is utilized or not. I also have some doubts about this as well. Carnivorous animals aren't generally very tasty because of the simple fact that they eat animal protein and not vegetable matter. If cattle were fed pure ground meat instead of a mixture of grains and other matter, beef would taste much different. Also, if you look at hunting in Africa historically, humans didn't start hunting lions (along with other big game) until the arrival of colonialism, and frankly, high powered firearms. Natives were quite content to hunt less dangerous (and better tasting) zebras, gazelles, impalas, wildebeests, etc... In short, you cannot compare hunting lions to hunting whitetailed deer. Deer will overpopulate themselves to the point of starvation in a matter of a few years, destroy crops, and cause general havoc if their numbers are not managed whether you agree with the methods utilized or not.
Finally, I believe that in light of the fact that 70 people a year are killed in Tanzania alone by lions, that lions identified as "man-eaters" should be tracked and permits should be issued to hunters in order to eliminate them. It's the least that can be done in a place where AIDS, starvation, and other diseases kill hundreds of thousands every year. The least that can be done is to ensure that fewer people will be killed by old sickly lions. So once again I present my opinion, not as an anti-hunter, nor as an overzealous Ted Nugent type, but as (hopefully) a voice of reason.
I would imagine that in colonial America many people lost their lives to mountain lions, black/brown bears, various snakes, and other dangerous animals that lived in as close a proximity as lions in Africa to people in Africa. Here in the Garden State, someone may go into anaphylactic shock after getting stung by a bee, or may be killed by a deer coming through the windsheild at 50 mph, or rarer yet, bitten by a copperhead/mauled by a black bear, but we have no parity with the level of human/animal encounters in Africa.
Getting back to the lions, if anyone is familiar with the movie "The Ghost and the Darkness," (good flick by the way) you're familiar with an (albeit dramatized) account of the actual "Tsavo Man Eaters," which terrorized a camp of railroad workers working on the Uganda Railway in 1898. Over the course of about two months, two lions had killed about 140 workers, mostly dragging them from their tents at night as they slept. After the lions were killed by Lt. Col. John Henry Patterson, they were examined and found to have been abnormally heavy (and therefore slower than an average lion) and had poor gums and teeth. Of course, they turned to the easiest prey to catch-men. The fastest man on earth runs about 13 mph slower than a spooked zebra or gazelle, not to mention that these animals tend to travel in packs.
So here's my take. Lions aren't killing because they are overpopulated. SOME lions kill humans because they are either fat, lazy, old, their dental hygiene isn't up to snuff, or some combination thereof. Therefore, I don't believe that pure sport hunting of lions is necessary or prudent, whether the entire animal is utilized or not. I also have some doubts about this as well. Carnivorous animals aren't generally very tasty because of the simple fact that they eat animal protein and not vegetable matter. If cattle were fed pure ground meat instead of a mixture of grains and other matter, beef would taste much different. Also, if you look at hunting in Africa historically, humans didn't start hunting lions (along with other big game) until the arrival of colonialism, and frankly, high powered firearms. Natives were quite content to hunt less dangerous (and better tasting) zebras, gazelles, impalas, wildebeests, etc... In short, you cannot compare hunting lions to hunting whitetailed deer. Deer will overpopulate themselves to the point of starvation in a matter of a few years, destroy crops, and cause general havoc if their numbers are not managed whether you agree with the methods utilized or not.
Finally, I believe that in light of the fact that 70 people a year are killed in Tanzania alone by lions, that lions identified as "man-eaters" should be tracked and permits should be issued to hunters in order to eliminate them. It's the least that can be done in a place where AIDS, starvation, and other diseases kill hundreds of thousands every year. The least that can be done is to ensure that fewer people will be killed by old sickly lions. So once again I present my opinion, not as an anti-hunter, nor as an overzealous Ted Nugent type, but as (hopefully) a voice of reason.
I just watched the entire video of the lion....
Someone left a comment on Ebaum's world that sums up my feelings rather adequately:
Someone left a comment on Ebaum's world that sums up my feelings rather adequately:
One other thing I'd like to note is that I'd be hesitant to even fire a gun like that T-rex contraption. Granted, we're talking quite a bit more rounds, but many old big game hunters who utilized "elephant rifles" tended to develop very poor eyesight later in life. It turns out that repeated jolts of such force so close to the head caused retinal detachment where the main nerve to the eye comes loose from the actual eyeball. 
as i said things can go wrong. bullet deflected by a little brush,a round that wasnt laoded properly, a failed scope or site. we dont know. to beat the hunter up you have to believe the hunter is out to cause the animal misery . do you think he would rather toy with his own life than harvest that animal cleanly. many game animals can go distances even after a heart shot due to there systems adrenalin kick. only sick or fat lions kill people. yeah o.k. also nice that some of us know how to use google. now thats scary.