The end of Garmin Basecamp

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Of course it's up to you, but I wouldn't pay $179 for a refurbished Oregon 450. It's a 10 year old device that was great in its day, but the technology is very old. No GLONASS or Galileo support, slow processor, so-so screen. What would I buy? Don't know, I'm not very interested in any of the current models. I still like my Montana but it also has a broken power button (common issue on Garmin handhelds).

Since you liked the 450, I'd look at the Oregon 700 or 600 if you can find one. I have never used one, but they are very popular. It's probably worth checking out the many smartphone apps before buying anything, most of them have free trials. I think Guy recently replaced his Oregon 450 with a Montana, would be interesting to hear his impressions.
 
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My Oregon 450 has died, on/off button doesn't work. What do I do now? I have relied on Basecamp for creating routs and archive my trips. I hike and travel in the car. I have OnStar and they consintly give really stupid directions. The 450 was small and easy to use, I will miss it.
It is time for a Montana Ed. Don't get the one with the camera though, not necessary and just clutters up basecamp.

Also, Garmin refurbished my Montana for $180 and they paid shipping both ways.
 
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If you also want to use it in the car, the Montana is definitely a good choice. Get the auto cradle and City Navigator and it will even give you voice prompts. The Garmin 24k topo maps are routeable and will also do that.
 

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Just be aware of the return/exchange policy when you buy. The Montana is considerably bigger and heavier than your Oregon 450 and some people have had a very negative reaction to that. I think the bigger screen makes it worth the difference, but it's a very personal thing.

And Garmin doesn't provide any kind of belt clip, the only way to attach something is a lanyard loop on the bottom. I rigged my own with a small nylon tie and an S-Biner which isn't great but it works.



I don't understand why Garmin couldn't have provided some kind of clip like the Oregon. It's a big, heavy pendulum with my home-made clip. :mad:
 

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My Oregon 450 has died, on/off button doesn't work. What do I do now? I have relied on Basecamp for creating routs and archive my trips. I hike and travel in the car. I have OnStar and they consintly give really stupid directions. The 450 was small and easy to use, I will miss it.
Ed,

I had the same problem. Garmin offered me a refurbished for $100 and I went with it. Sent the old back and received basically a new one.

I now have the Montana 600. If you want a small one like you have you should stick with the Oregon.
 

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I think Guy recently replaced his Oregon 450 with a Montana, would be interesting to hear his impressions.
If he wants the same size GPS the $100 I paid for the refurbished was worth it to me. I acquired the Montana because I got a good deal on it. A refurbished unit. It works perfect except the alarm clock. It crashes it every time. I use the alarm here sometimes so I just bring out the Oregon and use that. And if Jessica wants one she uses it.
 
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$100 is about all I'd pay for an Oregon 450 - that even strikes me as rather high. But it was 2015 when Guy got that deal from Garmin (which I thought was really good). I'd be surprised if they still have any Oregon 450's laying around in 2019. Was just looking at GPSCity, they used to have a nice stock of refurbs and new models. Now there are virtually no touchscreen devices at all. Wonder what's up with that? Garmin just updated three pushbutton handheld devices, but no new touchscreens.

I think we're watching the slow death of handheld GPS devices, Garmin is the only remaining company. I thought seriously about replacing my broken Montana a couple months ago and looked all over the web but didn't find a thing that interested me. The newer version of the Montana is a minor update and usually goes for ~$450 new. I'm not going to spend that much just to replace my 2011 technology. For awhile, there were a lot of Montana refurbs but I haven't seen any recently. Same for the Oregon 600 and 700.

One curious thing about the Oregon 600 vs 700... the Oregon 600 can use 500 custom map tiles, just like the Montana (your Oregon 450 can only use 100 tiles). This lets you load a 5x larger portion of my maps. For some strange reason, the Oregon 700 reverted back to the 100 tile limit.