The Slag Heap

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  1. HawkinNative

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    What is it that causes a topic to be "locked" once it's relegated to the Slag Heap? I noticed that only three other "lousy threads" aside from my hijacked "Hawk Shooting" were locked.
    In the explanation it says:
    "You can reply to things, but not start new threads here"
    How can a poster reply when the topic is locked?
    The other threads that were locked were on weight loss or seasonal. I don't see any precident that was followed.
    Mr Administrator, an explanation, please?
     
  2. tom m

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    Hawkin I've often tried to figure that out ,maybe some thing was said or an argument that was offensive and Ben didn't want it re-opened, I know the thing with the raptor shooting was almost one of them.
     
  3. HawkinNative

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    Tom M,

    Since I don't really know anyone on here, may I assume that Ben is Bruset the administrator?

    I find it hard to believe that he would lock the posting since he rails on to Furball about censorship, yet locking of the post is a form of censorship. There must be some other reason. He writes an even stronger opinion of free speech in his further chastisment of Furball with the following:

    "You want me to censor him because you don't like his opinion? It's sarcasm! For someone who has all manner of patriotic symbols in your posts, you sure act like someone who would be happier living under King George"

    So, no, I don't think that the writer of the above firey rhetoric would lock a post knowing that the apparent motive would be interpreted as supression of speech.

    It must have been some kind of technical glitch.
     
  4. dragoncjo

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    Guys lets just remember this is Ben's site, and is FREE. What happens to a thread is up to him, its his site. If he doesn't want further discussion on it then it is his perogative.
     
  5. HawkinNative

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    Wholeheartily agree it's his site. Never contested that fact. Given his stated opinions on free speech, I was merely seeking an answer. Is there a problem with that? If so, I will gladly delete all my posts and not return to the forum.
     
  6. Boyd

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    Just chill... and let's talk about the pines, which (I hope we can agree) is something that we all love :)
     
  7. dragoncjo

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    Sorry, I may have misinterpreted your post as sarcastic....my bad.
    Thanks
     
  8. tom m

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    Talking about the pines, I went out to Goshen Pond and decided to do some cruisin out there just cuz I've never been past the camp ground . I wound up being out there for about two hours just Riding , I came to a bridge that crossed the Mullica way up stream and then finally came out on Jackson rd , right above the bridge there , all in all an exceptional afternoon. I also noticed that there is a path that borders the pond , I'm going to see how far that goes into the swamp tomorrow if I don't work Again. As much time as i spent out there in my youth, I wonder how I've missed so much.
     
  9. Ben Ruset

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    Oh Jesus Fucking Christ give me a break. Locking a post is not censorship.

    Your thread derailed into a shit fest. That's why it got moved to the Slag Heap and then locked. It's not a reflection on you personally or your thread (as you started it.) If you want to blame anybody for your thread getting moved and locked, blame the people who shit it up, not me.

    There's a big difference between censorship and moderation. Jesus Christ, people, it's an internet forum. Get some perspective.
     
  10. HawkinNative

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    You and Bill Clinton should get together and write a dictionary!
    You don't censor and he "never had sex with that girl"!:)
    Just a matter of perspective - I'm done.

    Yes, Boyd, I too love the beauty of the Pines and frequently post about them. They have always been a very important part of my life and now that I have so much more time on my hands I plan on enjoying them to the fullest.
     
  11. Teegate

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    Boyd, as always, hits the nail on the head.

    Guy
     
  12. Ben Ruset

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    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/
    http://www.miumu.com/boards/index.php?mforum=NJPinelands&

    There are two other sites that are run by people who won't censor you at all. I encourage you to join and post on those sites rather than inconvenience yourself with mine.

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  13. HawkinNative

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    Maybe we could have a Thailand forum

    I said I was done. Apparently you wish to continue? Lay on Mac Duff!!And damn'd be him that first cries, 'Hold, enough!'

    You also missed the :) Besides, why would I leave. You guys just make me feel so warm and fuzzy!



    Man Gets Prison for Insulting Monarchy By AMBIKA AHUJA, AP
    BANGKOK, Thailand (Jan. 19) - An Australian writer was sentenced Monday to three years in prison for insulting Thailand's royal family in his novel, a rare conviction of a foreigner amid a crackdown on people and Web sites deemed critical of the monarchy.
    Bangkok's Criminal Court sentenced Harry Nicolaides to six years behind bars but reduced the term because he had entered a guilty plea, the judge said.
    Thailand Imprisons WriterApichart Weerawong, AP3 photos Australian writer Harry Nicolaides looks out from a cell in court Monday in Bangkok, Thailand. He was sentenced to three years in prison for insulting Thailand's royal family in his 2005 novel "Verisimilitude," which sold seven copies. The offending passage was just a few sentences long and referred to the marital relations of a fictional prince. Nicolaides, a 41-year-old from Melbourne, was charged with insulting Thailand's King Bhumibol Adulyadej and the crown prince in his 2005 book "Verisimilitude," a piece of fiction that only sold seven copies.
    "This can't be real. It feels like a bad dream," a tearful Nicolaides told reporters earlier Monday.
    A passage in the book that discussed the personal life of a fictional prince "suggested that there was abuse of royal power," the presiding judge told the court.
    Thailand's lese majeste law mandates a penalty of three to 15 years imprisonment for "whoever defames, insults or threatens the king, the queen, the heir to the throne or the Regent."
    The offending passage in Nicolaides' novel was just a few sentences long and described the turbulent marital relations of its fictional prince. The prosecutor warned reporters Monday that the law prohibited publication and repetition of the material.
    Until recently, prosecutions under the law have been uncommon — usually a handful a year — in a country where King Bhumibol is almost universally revered.
    But questions about the monarchy have assumed a higher profile lately as consideration is given to the eventual succession of the 81-year-old king, the world's longest serving head of state and the only monarch most Thais have ever lived under.
    Although he is a constitutional monarch who reigns but does not rule, Bhumibol — with the backing of the military — has since the 1960s held substantial political influence, usually exercised only in times of national crisis.
    Shackled at the ankles and handcuffed, Nicolaides said he felt "dreadful" as guards escorted him out of the courtroom.
    "I would like to apologize," he said, adding that he had "unqualified respect for the king of Thailand" and had not intended to insult him.
    He said he endured "unspeakable suffering" during his pretrial detention, but did not elaborate.
    Nicolaides' case came amid a recent spate of lese majeste complaints and prosecutions, and increased censorship of Web sites allegedly critical of the Thai monarchy.
    Nicolaides was arrested Aug. 31 at Bangkok's international airport as he was about to board a flight home, apparently unaware of a March arrest warrant, according to rights groups. He was indicted in November and denied bail.
    Nicolaides lived in Thailand from 2003 to 2005 and taught in the northern city of Chiang Rai. He has described his novel as a commentary on political and social life of contemporary Thailand.
    New Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva said last week his government would try to ensure the lese majeste law is not abused. But he said the monarchy must be protected because it has "immense benefits to the country as a stabilizing force." He said authorities would continue to block Web sites that insulted the institution.
    Justice Minister Pirapan Salirathavibhaga said Monday the new government has blocked more than 2,000 such sites.
    The severity of the lese majeste laws was highlighted in 2007 when a Swiss man, apparently acting in a drunken frenzy, was given a 10-year prison sentence for defacing images of King Bhumibol. It was the first conviction of a foreigner for lese majeste in at least a decade. The man was pardoned by the king after serving about a month behind bars.
     
  14. tom m

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    Back in the day when i was on the CB. we had Heat wars now it's internet wars . Everybody just take two deep breaths of Pine Barrens air and exhale real sloooooooow...... Ahhhh, that feels better. Now think about the water babbling over the cedar falls at Goshen Pond and no other sound:D
     
  15. HawkinNative

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    Hey! I'm 53 years old! if I think about babbling water I'll have to head downstairs to the bathroom!
     
  16. tom m

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    Well I'm 55 & 7/8 and at least i'm all on the same floor LOL!
     
  17. lgench

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    Phew! Bye all.
     
  18. HawkinNative

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    lgench,

    Bye! I never even saw you come in!
     
  19. tom m

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    ?????????????
     
  20. HawkinNative

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    TomM,

    Just trying to be a good humored, well behaved sheep! baaaaaaaah!
     
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