Washington Tpke 745 acre thinning bid

bobpbx

bobpbx

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Here comes the sun! New plant growth locations in all the wet spots. It will be interesting.

I never worry about this. It bounces back real quick if you let it go. Lack of funding usually drives it to that end.
 
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Teegate

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I agree Bob. I don't see a problem with it. The JCRR was that way years ago and look at it now.
 
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Blazer Jeff,

Could you size the photos a little smaller? Phone users may have issues viewing them.
 
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Sign at Carranza and Tuckerton (boot camp).
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Teegate

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I would say they plan on working on it off and on ??????????
 
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ninemileskid

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I'm sure Jason Howell (or whatever name he is using) would have a better idea what their stand is on this but I think they would be in favor of it. Due to the lack of fire it is probably the only way to open up the canopy and create more diversity at the ground level of the forest.
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I'm certainly no expert but does it also allow for invasive species to get a foot hold?
 
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bobpbx

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ninemileskid said:
I'm certainly no expert but does it also allow for invasive species to get a foot hold?
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You have a good point, but I don't think it will be horrendous. You might see more Japanese bush clover, but normally, when this is done, bracken fern, stagger-bush, and huckleberry are the first to come back. These pineland plants very aggressively cover the ground, keeping competition out. Also, the soil does not really change, so if an invasive loved acidic, sandy soil, it would be here already.
 
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bobpbx said:
You have a good point, but I don't think it will be horrendous. You might see more Japanese bush clover, but normally, when this is done, bracken fern, stagger-bush, and huckleberry are the first to come back. These pineland plants very aggressively cover the ground, keeping competition out. Also, the soil does not really change, so if an invasive loved acidic, sandy soil, it would be here already.
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You are 110% right Mr. Moyer.
The mere location of the cutting on Washington Pike in the central heart of the pines, precludes windblown and bird dropped seeds from ever finding their way there.

Take a ride to this clearcut in Dutchtown sometime if you want to see recovery. I used to drive my kids through there in the mid-90's when it was a stump field with only select seed trees left in place. The seed trees can be easily seen in the attached 1995 Historic Aerial.
The limits of the cut are invisible today and I don't think you'll find any invasive flora.
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Piney4life said:
Amazing there is no t&e species or plants along the 5 miles of this project.
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That's a great question. I hope steps have been taken to review the area prior to clearing. Most T&E species and plant biodiverse sites as a whole are concentrated around wetland areas (with of course some exceptions). Any endeavor like this would have to be approved by NJPC and the respective state agencies, I would be interested to know the result of any T&E studies performed.
 
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