Where is this?
- Thread starter Teegate
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We were at this location years ago and missed this. We were looking for sawmills. We went back today and Jessica noticed it. Where is it? For some of you it should be easy especially if you pass by in the winter. And finally, what do you think it was used for? I have maybe a good explanation.
Some hints. This is nearby.
And this painted monument tells you somewhat where it is.
Some hints. This is nearby.
And this painted monument tells you somewhat where it is.
Where I have no idea. But just a guess it was used to hold a wheel of a mill? The rebar must make it at least late 19th century early 20th century
You may be correct. The 1931 aerial shows a dwelling and maybe other buildings, and there is evidence of it there. If that location was there many years previously, it may be an historical place. Then again maybe not but my thoughts could be correct.
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The ruins are located on the south side of 72 just as you enter the Batona. Notice the monuments and the Lilly of the Valley if you hike through. Also notice someone has been metal detecting. Anyway, the 1931 aerials shows what most likely is the main building and some outer buildings. My photo above that started all of this most likely shows something that was used by them.
However, if the building was old in 1931 it could easily been there from lets say 1850 or so, when the old Barnegat road was used to get to the shore with horses.
With that said let's look at a 1933 map of Lebanon and the 1931 aerial showing that general area was called "Chambers Rest." Could Chambers Rest have been a rest stop along the Barnegat Road and it faded away when the state built what today is Route 72? I would think maybe so, unless someone has other idea's or info.
I did a search for "Chambers Rest" and I found a mention of it in a 1933 article about the locations that hunters had shot their deer. Other than that I know nothing else.
But more interesting to me is that location is along the Tibbs Branch and "Tibbs Watering Place" was located at the bridge where the old Barnegat road crossed. That would have been at the same location. In fact, this map from 1926 shows "Tibbs Watering Place" at the same location with a tack being placed 33 or maybe 55 feet from the center of the bridge along the Barnegat Road.
The survey notes showing there was a tack at Tibbs Bridge.
And as mentioned above "Chambers Rest" is not mentioned in 1926 but it is in 1933. The 1933 map above actually shows the location of Lebanon survey monument NJ52 at the bridge. BTW, no bridge is there anymore.
So what I am getting at is could Chambers Rest have originally been Tibbs Watering Place, especially if it was an old building with some history to it? And the ruins in my first photo could have something to do with Tibbs Watering Place as well as Chambers Rest.
I don't have much info so I am really just putting this out for all to decided or think about. I would really need to do a title search to figure it all out. I am sure the NJCF had one done when they acquired the property so maybe someone knows. But do they care or really understand the history of it?
However, if the building was old in 1931 it could easily been there from lets say 1850 or so, when the old Barnegat road was used to get to the shore with horses.
With that said let's look at a 1933 map of Lebanon and the 1931 aerial showing that general area was called "Chambers Rest." Could Chambers Rest have been a rest stop along the Barnegat Road and it faded away when the state built what today is Route 72? I would think maybe so, unless someone has other idea's or info.
I did a search for "Chambers Rest" and I found a mention of it in a 1933 article about the locations that hunters had shot their deer. Other than that I know nothing else.
But more interesting to me is that location is along the Tibbs Branch and "Tibbs Watering Place" was located at the bridge where the old Barnegat road crossed. That would have been at the same location. In fact, this map from 1926 shows "Tibbs Watering Place" at the same location with a tack being placed 33 or maybe 55 feet from the center of the bridge along the Barnegat Road.
The survey notes showing there was a tack at Tibbs Bridge.
And as mentioned above "Chambers Rest" is not mentioned in 1926 but it is in 1933. The 1933 map above actually shows the location of Lebanon survey monument NJ52 at the bridge. BTW, no bridge is there anymore.
So what I am getting at is could Chambers Rest have originally been Tibbs Watering Place, especially if it was an old building with some history to it? And the ruins in my first photo could have something to do with Tibbs Watering Place as well as Chambers Rest.
I don't have much info so I am really just putting this out for all to decided or think about. I would really need to do a title search to figure it all out. I am sure the NJCF had one done when they acquired the property so maybe someone knows. But do they care or really understand the history of it?
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Where’s this? Photo was taken about 2013 so I think the bridge has been replaced since. Hints are that it is south near my stomping grounds and the biggest hint is that it was a place of local prominence up until mid 1800s. It is an avenue on historic maps
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I once proceeded east across that bridge and where the trail makes a sharp left and heads to the power line I went straight and tried to follow the old highway.I followed the u shaped depression for maybe a hundred yards and the briars became so bad I turned around.That area of woods out there needs a serious burn.
By the way did you ever go see the stamping floor of the old Forge i told you about? That bridge is maybe fifty yards from it.
Where is this?
This one? Heres a clue. There are 2 streams that each empty their own water body to go under the hard road (said road only 140 feet from the the water bodies). The streams, as they go under the road separately, are about 1,500 feet apart. They join together about 1,800 feet SE of the road...
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I once proceeded east across that bridge and where the trail makes a sharp left and heads to the power line I went straight and tried to follow the old highway.I followed the u shaped depression for maybe a hundred yards and the briars became so bad I turned around.That area of woods out there needs a serious burn.
By the way did you ever go see the stamping floor of the old Forge i told you about? That bridge is maybe fifty yards from it.
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I never did although it's so crazy thick back there last time I went down that trail the trail turned into a tunnel after you take the left towards the powerlines.
after looking at this https://boydsmaps.com/#17.00/39.385610/-74.937940/midatlidar/0.00/0.00 I realize now that Forge Ave is actually the dam.
This trail https://boydsmaps.com/#17.00/39.377818/-74.932624/midatlidar/0.00/0.00 I've been down this year from the power lines to the bridge to Lawren's branch and I just noticed a possible tar kiln on it today looking at lidar
after looking at this https://boydsmaps.com/#17.00/39.385610/-74.937940/midatlidar/0.00/0.00 I realize now that Forge Ave is actually the dam.
This trail https://boydsmaps.com/#17.00/39.377818/-74.932624/midatlidar/0.00/0.00 I've been down this year from the power lines to the bridge to Lawren's branch and I just noticed a possible tar kiln on it today looking at lidar
Yes the dam is the old road,Quite common even today to use dams as road ways. Have to been to the stamping Floor? There is a brick pavement still visible there.It's between the raceway and the creek
Forge Ave at Cumberland Forge off Union Rd.
Right here https://boydsmaps.com/#15.00/39.386204/-74.938743/pines1930/0.00/0.00