Fire in Greenwood Forest Ocean County Near Jones Road

Teegate

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It will be interesting to see how this goes. If others are involved let’s hope the true story comes out.
 

Scroggy

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Jul 5, 2022
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He says he didn't do it.

I mean, that's not exactly what he said--he says that he partly extinguished the fire, that many other people were there, and that they should have finished the job of putting it out. But he doesn't deny starting the fire, which is what constitutes the crime of arson. Maybe those are mitigating factors during sentencing, or other people should be charged as accessories, but it doesn't deflect the charge.

Looking at the relevant statute, setting a fire and "placing another person in danger of death or bodily injury", "placing a building or structure of another in danger of damage or destruction", "placing a forest in danger of damage or destruction" are all grounds for charges of arson in this case. Purposely starting a fire and "thereby recklessly" placing, etc. is arson; it becomes aggravated arson if the fire was set with the purpose of endangering another person, destroying a building, destroying or damaging a forest, etc. (It also defines the crime of "Failure to control or report dangerous fire", but it's not clear to me that the a spectator could be charged with that; I don't know if their presence constitutes "assent" in the criterion that "The fire was started, albeit lawfully, by him or with his assent, or on property in his custody or control.")

The charge of aggravated arson seems like it would be harder to prove, but if the evidence is as stated (text messages & Snapchats, security footage of his truck at the recycling center where the pallets were taken), it would be very difficult to escape the arson charge.
 

Pan

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Jul 4, 2011
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He says he didn't do it.



"I kicked dirt on it"

Back in the early 1970's I was hiking through the woods of Bear Mountain State Park, north of NYC, when I came upon a couple trying to stamp out a fire that they had started as a cooking fire and was starting to spread through the very dry woods, and I stopped to help them as best I could, but it was spreading too fast and we couldn't stop it. It turned into a huge fire. I still have the newspaper clipping.

In June 2013 I stayed overnight at a motel in Camp Verde, AZ and at breakfast the room was filled with firefighters on their way north to fight a growing fire. I was talking and joking with those brave men and women. They were the Yarnell Hill Hot Shots. 19 of them died in that fire.

I would never eat breakfast in another motel after that. My stomach got so sick later that day. That may well have been a factor in their failure to escape the fire.
 

bobpbx

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Oct 25, 2002
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I don't think it was intential. He didn't need pallets if he wanted to start a fire.

Now this, really troubles me. I'd love to hear the back story of it:

"The suspect is also charged in an unrelated case with simple assault and endangering an injured person in connection with a brawl that took place in the woods in Lacey in January."
 
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