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  1. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    I went down Batsto Fireline rd past locks bridge to the burnt out bridge and went to come back up the road that comes up behind the cranberry bogs at Amato's house that is closed had to continue on to Batsto Although it was obvious that someone recently went through
  2. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    The easiest way to get to some of the places the closures affected is by renting a canoe from them now:rolleyes:
  3. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Well said Ben. Maybe someone should contact the Inquirer before his article is released so his report is much less one sided and how these closures affect everyone not just the targeted people
  4. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    The abuse goes much deeper then ORV use in the pines. In todays throw away society people pretty much abuse everything and when it breaks get a new one. That that general lack of respect includes the pines. ORV's just happen to be one of the most noticeable culprits. In some of these closures...
  5. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Yep those too. I haven't been down Rockwood road in years. It needs to be very dry for me to even think about it.
  6. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    That was one of the places I was going to check. And a road that should have been closed a long time ago.
  7. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Has any one been down to any of the areas that are being abused. Have they been left open? If so why? Why did they close roads with little to no 4x4 use? Why is it so hard to make a map? Are they "working" on a map because they haven't finished closing off areas? I have many questions and a...
  8. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    I don't know who he is affiliated with but its the first I've seen anything about it outside of here.
  9. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    I think they will need a larger location. https://www.facebook.com/events/735326556576316/
  10. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    You talk of this plan but have yet to explain what it is. If it's closing down roads so the state can maintain the existing ones better I have news for you. That will never happen. Many, many existing roads have not been touched in 20+ years. Simply having traffic on the roads tear them up, more...
  11. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Thanks for posting. As I m still very angry for what has transpired over the last few days I find it hard to be completely civil so bear with me. I'd like to hear what this new Management Plan consists of and how the closures of sand roads that dead end keep people from out of state from driving...
  12. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    ......The same family walks in to enjoy one of their favorite spots and a fire starts from where they came in. Possibly from their own vehicle by parking too close to some dry brush because they didn't want to block the main trail. Same outcome. I don't like playing "what if....". It can go on...
  13. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Scott you beat me to it. All volunteers do it because they want to. Volunteers at soup kitchens do it so help the hungry. Volunteer firefighters do it to help the community. These volunteers do it because they don't want vehicles where they've posted. If any volunteer is asked to do something...
  14. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Maybe registered enduros. At least there are tags that can be traced. Unregistered quads and dirt bikes will be unaffected. There is no ranger in a Cherokee that can catch them if they don't want to be caught. Besides the liability if someone was seriously hurt during a chase for simply riding...
  15. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Well there are several holes in this theory. First of all closing these areas have zero impact on the targeted people. And if these locations aren't a problem they why is it needed to patrol them in the first place. By closing these locations to motor vehicles does in effect make them off limits...
  16. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    That's right. My son does play in the sand there. With his matchbox cars. He must be the one their targeting :confused:
  17. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    I can think of many areas that are being abused much worse then the areas blocked off. One of the reasons my family and I loved locks bridge area for picnics was how quiet it was. We could sit there and hear the dirt bikes go up and down Quaker bridge rd on the other side. We were just there...
  18. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    I'm sure state vehicles can. But you keep hearing about volunteers posting the signs for the state. What about them? Is it still open to "volunteers"? So they can "protect" our pines. Patrolling sensitive areas of the forest is one thing. Shutting it off to everyone is another.
  19. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    It's the beginning of the end of the pine barrens as we knew them.
  20. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Yep. I knew this was going to happen. They can't keep people out of the areas already posted how are they going to police all the new ones. All it's going to do is keep the law abiding people out. :bang:
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