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  1. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Guy. I have written my representative. I'm on the fence on how to feel here. I support most of what the PPA does. But I'm so against these closures that I want to stand in front of their canoe rental with signs and handing out flyers. I could think of a lot of things I'd rather be doing but deep...
  2. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    If anyone knows someone that lives in Atco and backs up to the power lines they should be contacted and interviewed. The road that runs practically through their back yards is open instead of the one on the other side. I'm sure they haven't been asked or even advised of the additional traffic...
  3. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Putting holes in their how they are misleading the public is the best way. Like their "vernal pool". The next is finding out where the FFS truck got stuck. My best guess would be on E Stokes Road during the Atsion Fire this past spring. How does closing that road help fire suppression? If the...
  4. smoke_jumper

    Auermuller and the Future of Access Closures

    I m just sitting down and getting caught up. I was at work and didn't follow everything. The picture showing the "destruction" of a vernal pool on the headline is actually an area where the state dug up gravel to repair the road nearby. In the 90's there was a major beaver problem on Burnt Mill...
  5. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Al already did the work for me. And was not an existing vernal pool. The closures will not help that location at all. http://pinebarrensundersiege.com/2014/12/16/destruction-site-burnt-mill-road/
  6. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    I think it's on Burnt Mill Rd
  7. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Ok, I'm not sure which angle you are coming from but I'm going to take a stab at this one. Most of the rumblings you got over the last few weeks were probably started from this forum. Talking to Rob was a good start as many did here (and still are). I would find it hard to believe that nobody...
  8. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    It is surely a different color than what I've seen naturally in the pines anywhere. (More reddish brown). I'm also going by memory since I was to shocked to think of taking pictures. I will inspect more this weekend.
  9. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Ok maybe gravel and stone. Either way it resembles little of what it did weeks ago.
  10. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    I also like how a the service road along the power lines from Jackson Road to Maple Island is show as open. This goes right behind homes there and the rangers have been actively writing tickets if you were on that road saying it was not an established road. A neighbor was on his was back after...
  11. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Take a ride down Sandy Causeway. Get a feeling for the new look of the roads. It doesn't feel like preservation at all. Two cars wide and mowed shoulders. Oh yea trucked in clay and stone. It looks and feels about as natural as driving through the safari in Great Adventure They did leave enough...
  12. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    That's a lot of closed roads for two rangers to patrol, I'm sure they are up for the challenge:rolleyes:
  13. smoke_jumper

    Auermuller and the Future of Access Closures

    Kinda hard to get on West Mill with a bridge out at Pleasent Mill Church. That's one long dead end that is impossible to patrol.
  14. smoke_jumper

    Auermuller and the Future of Access Closures

    I agree it can't be personal as well. The concept of preservation vs conservation is what it should be about. Giving up any access willingly just because it doesn't involve your area now is wrong. When it does involve your area it might be too late because we just handed the rest over. It's not...
  15. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Saying that we are on the same side on this topic is a bit of a stretch. You have as much of a chance convincing me that closing off Locks Bridge is helping curb ORV abuse as you have of convincing Al that vehicles do little harm to the roads. Fight Walmart and developers is one thing and easy...
  16. smoke_jumper

    Baby Snake

    I might not run from that one.
  17. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Relatively poor rating too http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=7123#.VcC9zIr3asM
  18. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    And the locations of the first closures too.
  19. smoke_jumper

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    I live close enough to the Wharton that I can hear the quads and dirt bikes. While sitting in my house this weekend each one I heard just made me more and more angry. I keep hearing it's a small price to pay to walk instead of drive in the woods. Considering they're still there I think it's a...
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