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  1. dragoncjo

    Pair of Timber Rattlers

    Bob, I think Steve point is handling is handling and will effect the snake in some way no matter what the point is. Like yourself I agree that some handling is neccesary for some studies, and in turn those studies are needed for the snakes future well being. In regards to pickling, telemtry...
  2. dragoncjo

    Before the tour today

    Guy that is quite a nice sized male.....they tend to be on the small side in the pines due to the difficulty in finding anything besides shrooms and blueberries.
  3. dragoncjo

    Before the tour today

    Nice boxie Guy, was this fella near a water source in this heat?
  4. dragoncjo

    Pair of Timber Rattlers

    Chipping can also mean PIT tagging or branding. Researchers in the past(to my knowledge its not done anymore in NJ) would brand a mark of some sort into the snake. This way they could know if the snake was a recapture when found again. PIT tagging is generally used now or the animals pattern...
  5. dragoncjo

    Pair of Timber Rattlers

    Al, I don't handle snakes found out in the open. I have handled ones that I've flipped for pictures but very briefly. I've been fortunate enough to work with some studies and realize how much handling snakes effects their behavior. I would never hook any timbers nor should anyone unless the...
  6. dragoncjo

    Pair of Timber Rattlers

    Steve, remember I'm specifically talking about Jersey snakes. I don't look for herps really outside of south jersey to be honest. I've never had a timber in the pines act even remotely aggressive but I give a wide berth on them for the most part, never hook them(nor should anyone), and always...
  7. dragoncjo

    Pair of Timber Rattlers

    Chrisr that is why I post on these forums to clear up misconceptions about reptiles and amphibs. Unwanton killings have put a hurting on many snake population throughout time, so much so that many NE dens are extirpated. So the more people who understand the animals the better. Thanks for...
  8. dragoncjo

    Pair of Timber Rattlers

    Very good point GermanG. Another thing with the TR's is that the chance of encountering one for the average recreational pine barrens user is quite rare. You will find gravid females occassionally out in the open(on a trail, road) but gravid females are very very mellow because they are...
  9. dragoncjo

    Pair of Timber Rattlers

    Al, that was sort of my point. I'm just trying to make people aware that these creatures aren't a threat to humans. They are very fearful creatures of humans, and should be treated with respect. But the point I was trying to make is they don't chase people, seek people out, etc. Steve just...
  10. dragoncjo

    Pair of Timber Rattlers

    What the heck are you talking about Steve???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
  11. dragoncjo

    Pines Findings

    Chrisr what you saw was a eastern hognose snake...........
  12. dragoncjo

    Pair of Timber Rattlers

    Also TR's in the pines and in general are very very docile(I'm serious) but that situation is the only one where they can become slightly aggresive. Males will often defend the female to protect her. Being that they are a big slow lumber snake this isn't all that dangerous, but certainly...
  13. dragoncjo

    Pair of Timber Rattlers

    To expand a little the one male is attempting to pin down the other male to assert its dominance and 'win' the female. Unlike most snake species timber rattlesnakes mate towards the end of summer when they are making their long journey's back to their winter dens.
  14. dragoncjo

    Pair of Timber Rattlers

    What you have there is two male rattlesnakes in combat. There probably was a female nearby that they were vying for. I've seen dozens and dozens of TR's but have never gotten to see two males in combat. That is a very cool expirience.....be sure not to disclose anything about the locality to...
  15. dragoncjo

    what kind of frog?

    Ahh you are correct Steve, selective reading I guess..........your right its probably a peep.
  16. dragoncjo

    what kind of frog?

    Sounds like a fowler's toad to me. Many have metamorphed at this time and will be found hopping around driveway as the will be attracted to garage lights, patio lights etc. for insects. They also love coming out to warm pavement at night as the pines cools down quickly and the heat from the...
  17. dragoncjo

    To Find A Yellow Crested Orchid

    Bob you should check back in september for neonates....I'm guessing your finding gravid females at that spot.....as for the ones on the road they could be gravid as well....that population basks on the roads alot there.
  18. dragoncjo

    To Find A Yellow Crested Orchid

    Those two TR's were probably about to mate or just did. TR's start their mating season around now until september. Found a pair mating Saturday in the pines........ Bob have you been to that TR shed site, rookery spot yet this year?
  19. dragoncjo

    Shark attack in LBI

    Anyone noticed the date of the article? I researched a bit and saw this same link on a forum from 2005.
  20. dragoncjo

    Shark attack in LBI

    I was surfing in ship bottom when I was 12 and saw two sharks that summer. One was swimming about 10 yards away while I was paddling, about 10 minutes later it turned up almost on the beach as it gills had been bashed in. One of the lifeguards put it on a board and swam it back out. I agree...
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