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  1. tsqurd

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    "...reopen all recently closed roads except those that pose a risk to public safety or are environmentally sensitive." Call me cynical, but this sounds like one of those statements that on the surface everyone should agree to, but with out understanding what they consider a safety risk or...
  2. tsqurd

    Let's Talk about the PPA

    Worth asking, but similar to a PAC, he may not have direct ties to those he supports.
  3. tsqurd

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Hey Maggie - Welcome! I read your post this morning and it's been on my mind all day. I had started a response, but woodjin pretty much captured the point I wanted to make before I hit "post". Just a point or two that I would like to add. I spent the better part of yesterday in Wharton and it...
  4. tsqurd

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    What is the problem the MAP is supposed to address: illegal damage or access? Texel's quote in the Press should clear it up for everyone - it's all about limiting access: "The forest is being loved to death...How we balance recreation with access and protection of the environment is a huge topic."
  5. tsqurd

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Press attention from a biased reporter. She should be disclosing that Hutchinson is on the PPA staff and that he is reflecting the opinion of a group of activists, and not offering an opinion based on science
  6. tsqurd

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    It's not asinine - it's business and it's real. And as I said: Beyond that we can agree to disagree. Now let's get back to our regularly scheduled program and not let a side issue cause a problem.
  7. tsqurd

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Not suggesting they would benefit more then any other business that offers the same services. People will be more inclined to use a canoe service if everyone is launching from the same few spots - "why deal with the headache parking at the launch, lugging the boat, etc. if we are going where...
  8. tsqurd

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    And that is my point! Additionally, I don't want to suggest the PPA pushed the MAP solely with PA in mind, but at the same time one can not deny the business could benefit from restricting access.
  9. tsqurd

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Silly you. You don't need a canoe launch. You can simply pay the PPA's commercial venture to haul you in and out.
  10. tsqurd

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    I find the use of the jeep image entertaining. I just watched some of the Medford meeting in which Superintendent Keck praises all of the work Auermuller has put into the MAP. He goes on to state how Auermuller started working on this plan 4 years ago - coincidently that is the same time the...
  11. tsqurd

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Got to give Armeuller credit, he really is effective at painting a picture that is hard to disagree with when look at on the surface, unfortunately that is where most people stop. I'm left with the image of most forest users driving huge monster trucks running over little bunnies while knocking...
  12. tsqurd

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Big article on the front page of the Press of AC. Will post the link shortly Edit: Here is the link: http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/wharton-state-forest-officials-weigh-motor-access-vs-conservation/article_2b67318a-5741-11e5-886b-ffbe15a6078b.html?mode=print Mod edit: Posting an...
  13. tsqurd

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Finally got a response from rep mazzeo and sen whelan. My take away is they have already been prepped by the ppa and are atleast ok with the map, if not supportive. Very diassapointing... Thank you for contacting my office regarding recent changes made to Wharton State Forest. I am cognizant...
  14. tsqurd

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    I'm pretty sure your vision of the big picture and mine are quite different, so I'm not really sure where we will stick together. I do appreciate your effort to find common ground, but the issue at hand is the push to limit access to the forest, this time through the MAP, which is rooted in the...
  15. tsqurd

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Ahh to have all the answers, so glad we have 'friends' like you looking out for us common folk. What you say in your letter is misleading at best and I'm hard pressed to believe that was anything but your intention. The forest has been open to legal and law abiding users, including "off road...
  16. tsqurd

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    I disagree. Ignorance suggests he doesn't understand what he is saying/doing. But the reality is the truth doesn't fit into the activists narrative, nor will it rally his troops, so he purposely concocts this story using inflammatory language and demonizing many legal and respectful forest...
  17. tsqurd

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    The hubris of this guy is unbelievable. I can't wait to hear his response.
  18. tsqurd

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Welcome to the discussion Mr. Horner. Hopefully we can keep it civil, though based on the tone of your post I'm not sure that is your intention.
  19. tsqurd

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    its all messaging. Who knows what mr Horner thinks, he just needs a bad guy to sway public opinion. I agree with what you are saying, but it will be challenging to accomplish given the grass roots nature of this "movement". I've got some ideas, as I'm sure most others do - it's that next step...
  20. tsqurd

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    So kind of him to have our backs on this! With friends like this... Going to be tough to keep them honest with their spin, which one can already see in their communications. If they do indeed re-open a road, I would wager 5 more would get closed at the same time, but the press release will...
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