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  1. tsqurd

    DEP evaluating pay to access WMAs

    There is no way the DEP would implement a policy that would discourage people from accessing public lands :siren:
  2. tsqurd

    DEP evaluating pay to access WMAs

    Buried at the end of the article, but the research team "will evaluate if there is a willingness of the public to pay for usage of the areas". Wonder what this means for the hunters that already paid for the WMAs...
  3. tsqurd

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    The cynical side of me says you are probably right, but I'm not going to give up - it worked with the initial MAP. If our voices remain loud it might work again.
  4. tsqurd

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    I would hope, after seeing the public's reaction to the MAP, the DEP would be transparent as to their reasoning for closing areas as well as their future plans for each area closed (repair/reopen/permanent closure). If they are not, I think we, the public, have the responsibility to work with...
  5. tsqurd

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Perhaps that would be the case if one was to believe the MAP was the end game for the PPA, but they have been quoted in recent articles stating that they saw the MAP as a starting point. They would still be pushing for more even if the MAP was in place.
  6. tsqurd

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Shocking!!! The bottom line is the ppa wants to limit access to the greatest extent possible. Just look at Jaclyn Rhoads quote in the article where she says the ppa sees trail closures (the original MAP) as a starting point.
  7. tsqurd

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Would be curious to hear how the PPA & company react to the enforcement plan as it may actually work, unlike the MAP.
  8. tsqurd

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Thanks for the update
  9. tsqurd

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Anyone have any info on what transpired at the meeting?
  10. tsqurd

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    According to the courier post the meeting is 3/22 and the "media are barred from the invitation-only meeting"
  11. tsqurd

    Jeep Jamboree 2016 – WOW! IT IS FINALLY COMING!!!!!

    Hey now, let's not let facts get in the way...
  12. tsqurd

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    Any word on if there will be an opportunity for the public to comment on the new plan prior to implementation? Or was the open microphone complaint session in November it? I was assuming/hoping they would be taking feedback on a specific plan at some point.
  13. tsqurd

    Jeep Jamboree 2016 – WOW! IT IS FINALLY COMING!!!!!

    Yes, ill-informed. Assumptions are being made to come to the conclusion you do. We don't know the route, we don't know how much private property is involved, we don't know the details behind any of the pictures you linked to were taken, nor what they mean when they say mud/water. I've seen...
  14. tsqurd

    Jeep Jamboree 2016 – WOW! IT IS FINALLY COMING!!!!!

    And that is the exact ill-informed response for which Al and the PPA hope. While we all have a different ideal of how we would like to see MAP mess end, it is important that we work together to ensure responsible usage of the forest is allowed. We need to accept that we may not be in full...
  15. tsqurd

    Jeep Jamboree 2016 – WOW! IT IS FINALLY COMING!!!!!

    Remember where Al is coming from, he and his group are preservationists - they want to keep people out to protect the forest. Perhaps you should give Rob a call, I'm sure he could provide some detail on what criteria he used to approve the route. The MAP closures were put on hold, so the roads...
  16. tsqurd

    Jeep Jamboree 2016 – WOW! IT IS FINALLY COMING!!!!!

    The conjecture is they will be taking a bunch of jeeps into an area which they shouldn't. The Superintendent will be reviewing/approving the route before issuing any permits, which will ensure the route only includes roads that are open to the public, that will be able to handle the traffic. I...
  17. tsqurd

    Jeep Jamboree 2016 – WOW! IT IS FINALLY COMING!!!!!

    Seems like a lot of jumping to conclusions here. In addition to what 46er said above, the event organizers would be required to supply maps of proposed routes as part of their permit application. The routes would then need the approval of the superintendent, and we all know where Rob stands on...
  18. tsqurd

    NJCF Acquires 811 Acre Preserve on Mt. Misery Brook

    I would much rather this parcel be incorporated into the state forest, especially given a significant amount of the purchase price was made with public money, especially given how outspoken the NJCF was in support of the misguided MAP. Does anyone know the exact parcel that was purchased? Best...
  19. tsqurd

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    I think the bigger question is: will the powers that be with in the PPA be willing to work with us and be willing to except all respectful forest users, even if not everyone fits into their preservation model? From the beginning, just about everyone on "our side" has seemed focused on...
  20. tsqurd

    Let's Talk about the PPA

    Well for starters, PA is a for profit entity. Where do the profits go: to the owners. Who owns PA? Hint: if you are unsure check out PA's home page, there is a link to the owners (And one can find loads of information on the MAP on that site) So, if providing money to the people that want to...
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