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I ditto those sentiments, nascar.

Good news. Long live our southern New Jersey rivers.

Call it what you will, there can be no dispute that this administration used deceptive tactics in presenting their case for war. They ignored all conflicting intelligence and blew what little supporting facts they had waaayyyy out of proportion in order to scare us stupid. An honest argument...

Yo Steve, I said: You responded: Let's not forget about this: http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0518-04.htm :siren:

BEHR665 wrote: That is not my impression at all, although it is my impression that this administration is in charge of our policy in this war and that they are the ones calling the shots. Am I mistaken? It's a vicious cycle, Steve. Raid will only do so much. A change in policy can do...

Alrighty then.....

I'm trying hard to see the merit in comparing the 2003 invasion of Iraq to our invasion of Germany. Anyone care to shed some light on this?

Hi Steve, You said: Correcting failed policy is not tantamount to leaving Iraq in chaos. And it seems to me that this idea of creating a democratic state in Iraq is complete folly, as any democracy would be very short-lived in that region. Sad, I admit, but has every appearance to me as...

Freedom is good, Gaglia. There is no quarrel there. It's nice that we spent billions of dollars restoring their electricity after we shut it down during the initial invasion, but you might want to check your sources for your claim.

Folks, political disagreements aside, we can all get together and have a beer or two over a nice chat about the Pines when I get back to Jersey, right? :guinness:

Gaglia, Iraq's as pretty as a Sunday school picnic, isn't? Maybe we should move there. :)

Steve wrote: Who denies this obvious fact? And the reaosn they hate us so much is because they don't want us on their "sacred soil." We have decades of self-destructive policy in the Middle East under our belt, and we need to change this policy. Agreed. How is anyone but the Bush...

Who here has blamed Bush only? The fact is that this administration's policy in the Iraq war is a dismal failure and, despite this, they are sticking to their guns and are refusing to change their policy. This tells me that we are in dire need of a change in leadership. Pointing to the...

I guess this let's the Bush team off the hook, eh?

Badfish, I think you're quite the conservative on many fronts. Can you explain what you said below? P.S. There is life beyond Budweiser. :guinness: (I know, I'm a disagreeable chap, aren't I?)

Lorun wrote: I don't see that I've ignored this. People are suckers, aren't they? The Brits have been our main sidekick against Iraq since the beginning. Does it surprise you that they jumped to beat the war drums with us while offering shoddy intelligence? There was a reason why...

I think I finally see the light! We should vote Republican because the Democratic party is one of immorality - the values to which they adhere consisting of, but not limited to, "mocking everything sacred" by killing a million unborn babies a year, allowing (encouraging?) terrorists to...

Wow. Are we supposed to take this bafoon (Nelson) seriously?

Hey Steve, The reality - objective Truth (notice the capital "T'). :) For instance, the Bush administration, desiring to convince the American people that Iraq was an imminent threat to our nation, haphazardly put together a case for dismantling Hussein of the WMDs that our...

Bob, I am hard-pressed to think of one example where Bush has taken heed to reality and changed his ways, can you? This administration simply has too much disdain for the truth to do something like that.