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foofoo, You're right: Development certainly has obscured the boundaries of the pines. The Pines were once much mroe vast than they are now.

Ed, Wheretown? That's a bit extreme, isn't it?

This is a spin off my other thread devoted to determining the line of demarcation between north and south Jersey. A local drunk with whom I was briefly engaged in a "debate" last week looked at me like I was from another planet when I suggested that Brick Township homes some of the Pine...

Interesting criteria, dragon. Antoher reason why South Jersey is better than North Jersey. :mrgreen:

While drinking a beer at Friday's in Brick Township with a lady friend of mine, a local drunk intruded on our conversation in which we had been arguing over whether or not Brick was part of South Jersey. I was arguing for the affirmative, largely because, to me, the Brick area pretty much...

Cool photos, Mike. I thought it funny that you described that shot of the Mullica as a "scary vision". There certainly is a sort of eerieness about these sleepy rivers of the pines, isn't there?

Awesome photos, Boyd. :) Bob, Did the article mention that this happened roughly 6,000 years ago on the fourth day of creation? Just curious. Seriously, though, this is an awesome subject. Maybe we should get Ben to start a science forum. Kidding, Ben. :)

Steve, I misinterpreted the photos. I initially took them to be ATV trails, but now I can see that they aren't. I used to live a stone's throw from Batsto and I saw frequent ATV damage all over the place, including the village. Don't get me wrong. I have no quarrel with ATV use/users per...

Where are the Rangers when they're needed? Some ATV riders tore up the trails behind the Pleasant Mills church several months ago before I moved. They do this shit at night so as to take less of a risk. Scumbags.

I see the little one has you up late these nights, Jeff! :)

Hope everyone had a nice Thanksgiving.

Oh, Bob, you had to bring up reality, didn't ya? Civil war, you say? At least 161 Iraqis killed and 257 wounded just today? October '06 the deadliest month in Iraqi history? C'mon, Bob. We need to stay the course. Speaking of course, the five course dinner I had tonite just isn't doin'...

Gotta love the Meister. Here's another one of his (not so much to do with giving thanks, but a good one nonetheless: "Only the hand that erases can write the true thing." Below is a thanksgiving quote I was able to dig up. Very profound! "I like Thanksgiving meals. The dressing and...

Now, now, gentlemen..... Hey, what can be so bad about driving an SUV? It's good for the oil companies, afterall. I'm sure it's good for other reasons, but I'm too tired to think right now.

Is this the Lilly Lake in Oceanville? Poor pond has had troubles non-stop for as long as I can remember.

Natural waterfalls? None that I've seen or heard of, unless you consider a drop of 1-2 feet a waterfall.

Bob, I've still to do any exploring in the Plains. Am I correct in thinking that every Plains stream feeds into the Wading? Jeff, that's a wild story. Hats off!

Hey Zach. Have you checked out this link? http://www.weymouthnj.org/weymouth_history.htm

Good news from my new home state of Montana: Jon Tester has defeated Conrad Burns (another peice of excrement) for a seat in the Senate. I don't care how early it is. I'm having me beer to celebrate. To the pursuit of hoppiness....... :guinness:

You called it, Bob. That sorry excuse for a human being, Donald Rumsfeld, is stepping down. I truly hope he stays out of politics for the rest of his life.