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Probably a LLC to actually "own" the canoe livery property. Then if someone drowns in the river their family can only sue PA LLC and not be able to touch the livery's actual real estate? (This is just wild speculation on my part.)

The cynic in me is worried that the stakeholder meetings will either turn into a battleground between the two sides of the MAP debate, or that the state will take our concerns and promptly toss them in the bin. "Well we did seek input, we just chose to ignore it."

The stuff of nightmares

How? And why would PA benefit more so than, say, Mick's or Bel Haven canoe rental?

Nice waste of RTP grant and/or taxpayer money.

There's no announcement by the DEP about this (surprise, surprise.) But they do have this interesting little picture: This is changed from what it used to be: Backpedal much?

A token attempt at throwing a bone to pacify the public meeting. If anybody thinks that the DEP really cares about your opinion, I've got a bridge to sell you. If they truly did care to get public input they would have had stakeholder meetings long before they got caught closing the roads.

It's troubling that the PPA was specifically mentioned in that reply. Apparently our elected officials are more interested in speaking with a special interest group rather than the majority of the forest users.

I think you're right. Edit: Nothing mentioned on the Stokes website, either.

http://www.nypl.org/blog/2014/03/28/open-access-maps There's 100 maps of NJ, and while they're probably not very useful for Pine Barrens-type research, they're nonetheless fun to look at. Edit: Aaaaaand I just noticed that this was announced in 2014. So maybe not so much breaking news.

It's not a drone if there's someone piloting it from on board! :argh:

My thought exactly.

I love KEH.

I'd love some concord. The last time I drank the concord, though, was kind of a not so good night for me.

Technically yes, today's trash will be tomorrow's artifacts. That said, there will be no shortage of crap that we've left for future archaeologists so it's perfectly a-ok to carry out litter.

http://www.njoutdooralliance.org/assets/pdfs/WhartonStateM.A.P.Letter8-28-15.pdf

Yeah, wait - Rob has offered that concession but so far as I heard the NJOA told him to go stick it in his ear.

Simply blown away by that article, Greg.

Thanks. I just wanted to know the groups, not have the conversation devolve.

A corn cob or a page torn from the Sears catalog.