Apple opposes Judge's order to unlock shooter's phone

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  1. 46er

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    Apple never had a problem, they had a doa lawsuit filed against them and the govt finally realized that. Apple will have a problem should the govt get the code they need. Then Apple will be the one filing a doa lawsuit, but the game will already be over.
     
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    http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-apple-encryption-cellebrite-idUKKCN0WP17J

    "Israel's Cellebrite, a provider of mobile forensic software, is helping the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation's attempt to unlock an iPhone used by one of the San Bernardino, California shooters, the Yedioth Ahronoth newspaper reported on Wednesday.
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    Cellebrite officials declined to comment on the matter."
     
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    Yes, I've heard the Israelis may have had a problem with a terrorist or two in the past. :)

    Amazing that they can get things done and still maintain their freedom, in stark contrast to our country, which holds on to the unreasonable belief that the King is about to behead them and that the government wants to take away all their guns and put them in prison camps.
     
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    http://www.macrumors.com/2016/03/28/doj-drops-lawsuit-against-apple/

    Applicant United States of America, by and through its counsel of record, the United States Attorney for the Central District of California, hereby files this status report called for by the Court's order issued on March 21, 2016.

    The government has now successfully accessed the data stored on Farook's iPhone and therefore no longer requires the assistance from Apple Inc. mandated by Court's Order Compelling Apple Inc. to Assist Agents in Search dated February 16, 2016.

    Accordingly, the government hereby requests that the Order Compelling Apple Inc. to Assist Agents in Search dated February 16, 2016 be vacated.

     
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    Apple has egg on their face. They only made things worse. As one of the posters said (paraphrased here):

    When Apple resisted, and said it could not be done, every hacker in the world that had a bit of pride tried to get in...only making the phones less secure...and...the next time law enforcement wants to execute a legitimate warrant to obtain crucial crime information, Apple needs to find a way to give it to them in a way that satisfies them and protects our privacy as well.
     
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    Two years have passed and the landscape has definitely changed...

    https://www.macrumors.com/2018/04/12/graykey-iphone-unlocking-box-adoption/

    "GrayShift's recently publicized "GrayKey" box designed to crack locked iPhones is seeing wide adoption among police forces and federal agencies across the United States"

    This part is interesting

    "Current FBI Director Christopher Wray said in January at the International Conference on Cyber Security that law enforcement officials are facing a "Going Dark" challenge where an "enormous" number of cases rely on an electronic device. "We're increasingly unable to access that evidence, despite lawful authority to do so," said Wray.

    Motherboard's investigation into GrayShift, the GrayKey iPhone unlocking boxes, and other smartphone unlocking methods suggest that is not the case. The FBI uses the going dark debate to advocate for easier access to electronic devices through backdoors, but the seemingly readily available tools like GrayKey undermine these arguments."
     
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    Where is Edgar when you need him? Probably rolling over....

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    Probably in a place that is a lot warmer than New Jersey. ;)
     
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    https://www.macrumors.com/2018/04/16/iphone-cracking-six-digit-passcode/

    "Previous reports have suggested the GrayKey can crack 4-digit passcodes in a matter of hours and 6-digit passcodes in days, but as highlighted by VICE's Motherboard, cracking times for the GrayKey and other similar iPhone unlocking methods can potentially be even faster

    Matthew Green, assistant professor and cryptographer at John Hopkins Information Security Institute, said this morning on Twitter that with an exploit that disables Apple's passcode-guessing protections, a 4-digit passcode is crackable in 6.5 minutes on average, while a 6-digit passcode can be calculated in 11 hours."