Chatsworth Atv park
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Sure -- I was only talking about overtly photographing someone, or confronting them. If people want to report plate numbers, that's pretty safe. I would definitely do this if I saw an illegal dumper in the woods.
I think he may mean people riding around on 44"'s or something. I don't like huge trucks rolling around either, simply because they make the trails impassable for people like me puttering around in my Jeep.
safest place in a puddle (For a bike) can be right down the middle.. granted and assuming there's not logs or any crap left in it.. if i can't get around it and a middle run through is inevitable, i'll usually walk it first, or pole it w/ a long stick.. bikes dont run well underwater.. ask me how i know.. 
If the trucks aren't off road, then the drivers have nothing to fear from law enforcement, but if the vehicles are covered from top to bottom with mud, then chances are the drivers were playing in the mud, not just driving down the road. I know High Crossing area pretty well, and it's pretty obvious that the roads, road shoulders, and intersections have been deliberately torn up by drivers of monster trucks. It must be fun to spin the tires and throw mud and see how deep you can make the rut, and see who can get through there and who can't. I'll be more than happy to meet you out there and show you what I'm talking about. I know people who drive (or used to drive) these things, and they have told me that's what they like to do.
10-4, Tom. But I'm talking about a caravan of monster trucks covered from top to bottom. I don't think it hurts to alert the rangers, because there's good chance they aren't out there to reflect on the wonders of the natural world.
I guess it shows that we should reconsider before we make blanket statements. That's really my point. I've been out "riding the trails" by myself, with my wife and with convoys of upwards of 10-12 other trucks. I get muddy without doing anything illegal, so do others. If a Ranger where to stop me, just because my rig was muddy, I'd be hard pressed not cracking-up when he pulled me over and said, "Excuse me Sir. I pulled you over because we got a report of your truck looking muddy, out here in the woods."
I'd like to see that area sometime.. PM me directions if you feel comfortable doing so.
10-4 Nascar. Point well taken. But do you know what I'm talking about when I say that big trucks are tearing up both roads and wildlife habitat out there?
Again, yes and no. Just because someone is riding the trails with 44's it doesn't mean they're tearing up the trails. I've seen stock vehicles rut up the trails and I've seen these big rigs do the same. None of which were in my group, but I've seen it done. I think we're both trying to say the same thing and share the same concerns. All I'm adding to make my point is that we can not generalize.
For example, my wife and I camped at the Wading Pines Campground this past weekend. On Saturday morning, we hit the trails for a few hours in my stock Tacoma. On two different occasions, we encountered stock F150's tearing up the trails, by power-braking on both the trail and in puddles. They were 2-different people, 2-different trucks. We also ran into a highly lifted, highly modded Jeep with huge tires. The guy was doing (so he said) what my wife and I were doing, which was just riding around taking in the sites. That huge Jeep, assuming he was doing what he said he was doing, did far less damage to the roads/trails than those morons in the stock F150's. The trails were not dry by any means, but were not sloppy wet, although I did manage to have a "muddy" truck when we were done with our ride.
I hear you loud and clear. It's the way you drive, and where you drive, not necessarily what you drive.
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