Flower ID

bobpbx

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Can you tell what this is? Will it produce flowers? This year or next?View attachment 755

Tom, what kind of habitat was that? It looks like an Orchid. Orchids are monocotyledons, which is one of the two major groups of flowering plants. They have only one seed leaf (like that shown) and have leaves that are parallel-veined, rather than net-veined and two seed leafs like a dicotyledon (think of a watermelon sprout, which is a dicot).

For some reason I see many leaves of Orchids that do not produce a flower, and that looks like an orchid. But, you never know, it could be something else.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monocotyledon
 

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Bob, They were in a small cedar swamp near me. there were approximately 30 of them in a 30 foot area. Should I check on the occasionally this year or wait till next year to see what becomes of them? DSC00721.jpg
 

bobpbx

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Bob, They were in a small cedar swamp near me. there were approximately 30 of them in a 30 foot area. Should I check on the occasionally this year or wait till next year to see what becomes of them?View attachment 756

You are too late this year. If they aren't up now, they won't be. See the right leaf on this white orchid in our project area. By the way, in my experience they do not grow well in shaded cedar swamp unless they are in a very damp area with sphagnum moss. The other spot they grow very well in is in the transition area between the swamp and the pine woods. Right at the edge where some of the shrubs are.

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The ground was very spongy and a small stream(one foot wide) was several feet away. It's less than a mile from here and a five minute walk into the woods. I'll check on them next spring and if they start growing early I might put a fence(with a top) around them. One thought I had is that they started growing late because their host fungi didn't start growing until late in the season?
 

bobpbx

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The ground was very spongy and a small stream(one foot wide) was several feet away. It's less than a mile from here and a five minute walk into the woods. I'll check on them next spring and if they start growing early I might put a fence(with a top) around them. One thought I had is that they started growing late because their host fungi didn't start growing until late in the season?

I don't think they are growing late....just that they never did get a flower up. That leaf may have been that way a month.
 

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Since there are around 30 sprouts there must have been a flower at one time? DSC00709.jpg I'm guessing that this is a grass.
 

bobpbx

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Since there are around 30 sprouts there must have been a flower at one time. View attachment 758 I'm guessing that this is a grass.

Yes, that does look like a grass. There is a mnemonic that goes....

Sedges have edges
Rushes are round
Grasses have nodes from the top to the ground"

Or

Sedges have edges,
Rushes are round,
Grasses are hollow,
What have YOU found?

Or

Sedges have edges
rushes are round
grasses are hollow right up from the ground
 

bobpbx

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I've also read "grasses wear robes all the way to the ground" View attachment 760 These were as tall as me.

I'm pretty sure you have wild rice there pardner.......Zizania aquatica.

When they say "robes all the way to the ground" they probably are referring to the fact that the sheaths of grasses are usually open below the leaf. Not so with sedges, they have closed sheaths (generally).
 
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