Flower ID

[manumuskin]

It's likely not what you think it is Tom, but you'll enjoy the historical aspect. You'll get a kick out some of the photos and the places he mentions though, so its good to have in your collection. But he "usually" only uses latin names and most of it deals with more of an environmental study of the pines flora. It can be dry, but also fun at times. The photos are not real clear, but some of the pygmy pines photos are shocking at how low they were back then.

Bob,

I took that book out of the millville library several times as a teenager and often wondered where the photo was taken of a pond in the pygmy plains.the only pond I know of now that looks anywhere similar to it is Govenors pond but i don't think thats the place because the hill at Govenors is a lot higher and the pond is wider.
Al

 

[bobpbx]

Bob,

I took that book out of the millville library several times as a teenager and often wondered where the photo was taken of a pond in the pygmy plains.the only pond I know of now that looks anywhere similar to it is Govenors pond but i don't think thats the place because the hill at Govenors is a lot higher and the pond is wider.
Al

Figures 118 and 119? You have a point Al. But, then too, there seems to have been no tall trees in those photos at all, and the hill on the northeast side (where maybe the photo was taken) rises very slowly.

If you look at Atlas 13 in the topos on this site, the pond isn't even there. I wonder how natural it really is? Or look at the 1890 Tuckerton-Little Egg topo; its called Governor's Branch, but no pond is shown. Maybe it was always there and known by the locals as that name, but not recorded on maps until later.

Guy; look at the Pemberton Quad Historic Topo (1885)....it is Governor's Hill Brook, not Risleys.

 

[Teegate]

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Guy; look at the Pemberton Quad Historic Topo (1885)....it is Governor's Hill Brook, not Risleys.

We need to change the title of it Which one do we use

Guy

 

[bobpbx]

We need to change the title of it Which one do we use

Guy

You could use both, its up to you. Or, change the name to something else entirely.

 

[oji]

Bob, One of my goals for next year is to learn the latin names and be able to have a mental picture when I hear them.

 

[oji]

We need to change the title of it Which one do we use

Guy

How about Thompson's Brook?

 

[Teegate]

How about Thompson's Brook?

That would be interesting. Actually, it wasn't exactly the brook we were directly discussing, and you oji will eventually find out what it was

Guy

 

[bobpbx]

Bob, One of my goals for next year is to learn the latin names and be able to have a mental picture when I hear them.

Good! I'm glad to see you have this interest. It is a very challenging hobby.

 

[oji]

Any idea what this is?

 

[oji]

These had an unusual shape.

 

[bobpbx]

These had an unusual shape.View attachment 968

That is lyrate shaped Tom, and that is most likely a species of the Genus Centaurea, most likely Centaurea nigrescens.....knapweed.

 

[bobpbx]

Any idea what this is?View attachment 967

I dare not made a determination based on just that much, but it certainly does look like the beginnings of a Cinquefoil species.

 

[oji]

There is still a lot of greenery around.

 

[Spung-Man]

Rumex acetosella – Sheep's Sorrel

These had an unusual shape.View attachment 968

oji,

I believe you are looking at Sheep's Sorrel. Its thin stringy roots are the bane of any Pinelands vegetable plot, since pieces accidentally left in soil will quickly sprout into another rampageous thug. Back on the farm it was my chore to collect wild greens, and this was part of the collected bounty. Of Ukrainian heritage, I loved a cold sorrel soup called schav or szczaw. A dollop of sour cream balanced the sharp lemony bite imparted by its high oxalic acid content. Sheep's Sorrel was sparingly added to salads, but be warned you were left with a funny-dry film form upon your teeth after consumption. Cultivated Common Sorrel (R. acetosa) grown in the perennial vegetable plot was far more tame. Sheep Sorrel is a European escapee that thrives in sandy acid soils (e.g., the Pine Barrens).

 

[bobpbx]

oji, I believe you are looking at Sheep's Sorrel.

Since Mark has apparently eaten it (with a dollop of sour cream---yech!), I'd go with his ID Tom. It also has Lyre shaped leaves. Here is a photo of a couple I collected at Lakehurst.

 

[oji]

If you look around you can still find some green!

 

[Teegate]

I have plants coming out of the ground in my garden. Spring is near.

Guy

 

[oji]

Corema conradii, Conrads Broom-Crowberry

 

[turtle]

nice photos....I am happy that it's "that time again"
I thought you were at the train station today. The reviews I heard were wonderful. You probably had quite a crowd.

turtle

 

[oji]

I got to the station early and helped pack up things going to the college. Then we got the tractor and the hayride trailer set up. About 20 people showed up at the station andsaw a presentation in the station/museum and then went on a 1 1/2 hour guided tour down the rail trail. While this happened Karl and I got in some work in one of the cabooses. After lunch we wandered around a bit and Spring fever hit us so we called it a day. I had enough time to run to Chatsworth and get some pictures. Tomorrow I'll be working on preserving another stand of Pickerings.