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edpipeline

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Just noticed this at the top of the page as I was doing my occasional lurking:

Hello edpipeline,
You haven't posted yet! Why not make your first post today by saying hello to our community in the General Discussion forum? Start posting today and become an active part of the NJPineBarrens.com Forums now.

OK! Well, first, this site is always a somewhat nostalgic visit for me. After my first 8 years in Philly, I moved to Mt. Laurel and Moorestown, attended the Friends' School and Moorestown High, and got quite interested in the ghost towns of N.J., thanks to Henry Beck, driving around the Barrens and shore in old cars and my motor scooter trying to find the places. No one else I knew was interested, except my dad, who occasionally went with me to search (this was around the late 1950's or so). Anyway, some of the best times with my dad were on these trips, and the canoe trips down the Oswego River, and some very nice memories camping at Camp Ockanickon with the Quakers, and fishing early in the mornings in the lake for pickerel, spending a couple of nice summers at Medford Lakes in those little log cabins. Anyway, I moved to British Columbia in 1970 to avoid the Vietnam War, after the board rejected my application to be a conscientious objector. Good move, I am still thinking, and more each day. I now run an animal rights site (The Elephant Commentator) and that is occupying quite a bit of my spare time. Anyway, I have many of your great photos stored in my computer and really appreciate this site and the terrific membership. I hope we are all together, one way or another for years to come. Thanks for listening. Ed
 
Teegate

Teegate

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As a teenager in 1970, I remember watching closely the events going on in Vietnam. Not necessarily for my own concern, but my brother and many of my friends were older than me. For one a heart problem eliminated his concerns, but my brother's age group were eventually assigned a number in the lottery. My first year of high school especially was a very unstable time for the older students where I went.

My father was a news freak so we watch Kissinger every night as the final days of our involvement winded down and the threat to my brother and friends diminished. By my last year in high school the atmosphere had changed dramatically for the better since the threat had been eliminated.


As for the Quakers in Moorestown, I think your return would be bittersweet. The Quaker influence in Moorestown is quite low anymore, replaced by million dollar homes and the people who come with them. Ed Forsythe was probably the last major influence the Quakers had, and he now resides alongside his wife in a cemetery in Medford.

My dad worked for him and his dad for many years, and I had the pleasure of meeting him on many occasions at his farm in Vincentown, and his office at Third and Mill in Moorestown across from the Hardware store.

Thanks for posting, and I also welcome you to Ben' site.

Guy
 
RednekF350

RednekF350

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edpipeline said:
Anyway, I moved to British Columbia in 1970 to avoid the Vietnam War, after the board rejected my application to be a conscientious objector.
I now run an animal rights site (The Elephant Commentator) and that is occupying quite a bit of my spare time. to come.
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I am sure you will score high with any veterans on this site.
The Elephant Commentator is pretty scary too.
Scott
 
RednekF350

RednekF350

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What I find "scary" is that people can devote so much energy to crack-pot causes like protecting the interests of circus elephants (really, read one of their forums about tracking circuses).
There is no shortage of human suffering and mistreatment of children in this world, including right here in the United States.
Changing the life of a child or helping a family in need through devotion of time and other resources, is more beneficial to society than making sure Jumbo has fresh water.
But hey, maybe that's why this guy came back to this great country of ours.
No matter how whacky your cause, you will find an audience and a following.
More importantlly, you will have the freedom to create a cause and draw a following.
God bless the U.S.A.
Scott.
 
LARGO

LARGO

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Ariadne said:
And when someone dedicates his time to a cause, no matter whether it is saving babies or saving animals, .


What has always perplexed me, ( and I am not even including this fellow's opinion because I do not know his stand here ) is the persons who are first to jump on animal mistreatment and slaughter but take a liberal stand on abortion. I know many like this. Save the seal, slaughter a fetus?
How very interesting which pro life perspective some take.
I say this and I'm not even opposed to pro choice, I just think the other is a little twisted.
Just my pence. Shouldn't stray from the welcoming party I guess.

G.
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ChrisNJ

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Hmmmm, does this elephant group view humans as does groups like PETA ?


"We feel that animals have the same rights as a retarded human child because they are equal mentally in terms of dependence on others." - Alex Pachero, PETA Founder, The New York Times (January 14, 1989)

“Every child in America who enters school at the age of five is mentally ill, because he comes to school with an allegiance to our institutions, toward the preservation of this form of government that we have. Patriotism, nationalism, and sovereignty, all that proves that children are sick because a truly well individual is one who has rejected all of those things, and is truly the international child of the future.” Dr. Chester Pierce, Harvard University professor and Humanist activist

"When it comes to feelings, a rat is a pig is a dog is a boy. They are all mammals. They all feel pain. There is no rational basis for saying that a human being has special rights ... 6 million people died in concentration camps, but 6 billion chickens will die this year in slaughterhouses." -- Ingrid Newkirk, founder/director of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA).

"To feed a starving child is to exacerbate the world population problem."
-- Lamont Cole (as quoted by Elizabeth Whelan in her book Toxic Terror)

"We, in the green movement, aspire to a cultural model in which killing a forest will be considered more contemptible and more criminal than the sale of 6-year-old children to Asian brothels." -- Carl Amery

"The life of an ant and the life of my child should be accorded equal respect." Michael W. Fox, Senior Scholar, - Associated Press (January 15, 1989)

“We do not need any more preaching about right or wrong. The old ‘thou shall nots’ simply are not relevant…Values clarification is a method for teachers to change the values of children without getting caught.” Dr. Sidney Simon, lecturer and teacher
 
LARGO

LARGO

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Ariadne,
I've generally found your input/commentary interesting & informed.
I'm not so sure my statement was attacking anyone especially our newcomer. It always seems to raise someones hackles though, especially animal rights folks (Again,isn't that odd?). I don't particularly ever engage too deeply religious or political issues in open forums of a friendly nature. Always seems to end up messy.
You may note that I indicated I remain neutral in the Pro choice issue. That is on the individual. I don't know one's heart and don't force their mind.
I noted the cover statement of your first line so for the rest I'll just say that I hope such an impressive literary display wasn't wasted to mask sarcasm.

Jeff,
While the tide of the thread shifted, as many do here, I see the Hello All wound up in General Discussion and seemed to be open ground, as long as it remained civilized.

G.
 
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