Just a follow up, I've been practicing map and compass skills more often and in more depth since the folks on here inspired me to do so. I used the knowledge that Al shared with me, along with the resources that Al and a few others recommended (vids and books) and have been working on natural navigation, terrain navigation, map reading, map and compass, map orienting, taking map or field bearings, triangulation, working with back bearings and catch and waypoints, etc. Lots of fun and something that I wanted to do for a while! Thanks folks!