Jobs Old Swamp

[Tom]

Does anyone have any idea where this is/was? It is in the Pemberton area. If not, does anyone know where Troy Island is?

 

[Teegate]

I have reference to it in the Hanover Furnace survey. Give me time to get my bearings and I will try to figure out where it is located. That portion of the survey I have not examined in detail.

Guy

 

[Tom]

Guy,

This may help. If you know where Troy Island is, you're there.

R. and S. H. Jones, Tanton Earl, Richard W. Earl, and Franklin W. Earl wishing to dispose of all their cedar timber in "Job's Old Swamp," will again offer for sale on Monday March 19, 1855, 15 or 20 acres of cedar timber suitable for logging or railing, in lots to suit the purchasers. It is situated near Troy Island at the foot of the Swamp, about 3 miles from Hanover Furnace, 2 from Hartshorn's Mill, 5 from Mount Misery, and 5 from Brown's Mills

 

[Teegate]

Guy,

This may help. If you know where Troy Island is, you're there.

R. and S. H. Jones, Tanton Earl, Richard W. Earl, and Franklin W. Earl wishing to dispose of all their cedar timber in "Job's Old Swamp," will again offer for sale on Monday March 19, 1855, 15 or 20 acres of cedar timber suitable for logging or railing, in lots to suit the purchasers. It is situated near Troy Island at the foot of the Swamp, about 3 miles from Hanover Furnace, 2 from Hartshorn's Mill, 5 from Mount Misery, and 5 from Brown's Mills

I also see reference to Troy Island. Find me Taylors Branch or Beaver Dam Branch off of Pole Branch and that will help me.

Guy

 

[Tom]

I can show you where Bever Dam Branch is off of Pole Bridge Branch. Is this what you are looking for?

 

[Teegate]

Yes

 

[Tom]

This isn't a very good photo...it's the best I have at the moment.

Can you make sense of it?

 

[Teegate]

I will have to look it over tomorrow. I am really tired.

Guy

 

[Tom]

sounds good. Talk to you tomorrow.

 

[woodjin]

I know this general area rather well. I am having trouble seeing all the text on the map. With limited info, and based off the map. I would place within military property, or possibly were present day country lakes is. Perhaps Whites bog.

Jeff

 

[Teegate]

Bob...can you show me map that shows the head of Beaver Dam Branch. Preferably a modern one so that I can get my bearings.

Guy

 

[bobpbx]

Are you asking me Guy? The attached is downloaded from USAphoto maps:

http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10011/Pole_Bridge.JPG

Best to view it from the photo gallery. I don't see Beaver Branch. That Fort Dix map I have shows nothing different.

 

[Teegate]

All of the below is on a 76.41 degree line so it is a straight line. So using the below info the distance from the Burlington/Ocean county line (307.10) to Jobs Swamp ( 140.00 ) is 1671 chains or 11,028 feet or about 2 miles. So since it is not perpendicular with the county line, Job’s Swamp is less than two miles from the county line. If we find the head of Taylor’s Branch of Beaver Dam Branch we can use the 8.5 degree difference in magnetic north and find the location of Job’s Swamp.



Division Line June 14th 1861
2PM
Between R. Jones and S.W. Jones known as the Hanover Farms Tract

Present J. Wyatt
? Folks
? Bozerth
R. Ford
? Simpkins

Commissioners
John Black
Jos ?. ????
Thomas W. Ivans


Jos W. Cox survey

Beginning at a stone at the NW corner of 20 acres surveyed to Bennet Bard ??? (near) Pole Bridge Brook. Said corner being about 15 chains (990 feet) above where a small branch called Taylor’s Branch puts in the Pole Branch Brook. N 76.41 W. (5043 feet)

63 chains Head of Beaver Dam Branch

71.30 chains Road from Hanover to Hillards

80.00 chains Stake

90.00 chains Quit for the night

June 15th 1861
Continue the line

100. 00 chains Stake about 3 chains west of road for Jobs Swamp to Hillards ???? Hanover to Hillards running up south side Jobs Swamp.

110.00 edge of low lands

130.00 low lands north of Stewart Cedar Swamp.

140.00 Stake about 1.5 chains East of a road above the described south side Job’s Swamp.

141.50 said road

153.50 intersected northern line

160.00 stake

170.00 stake

180.00 stake

190 stake

196.20 Tar Kiln ???? On point past land putting into Troy Island.

197.30 Stake 2.22 chains south of D. Carrs Mill, 2.80 chains south of the fire place of his cabin.

226.97 Road to Hanover

Quit for the night

June 16th 1861

Continued said course

260.00 stake south side of cranberry ridge

267.50 Road again to Hanover

270.00 stake

280.00 stake

290.00 stake

307.10 County Line

 

[Teegate]

Are you asking me Guy?

Yes. I figured who better to ask.

Guy

 

[Teegate]

Tom,

I still am not sure where this is. I am certain it is on the division line, most likely about 2 miles from the county line. That would put it around here but I am not certain yet.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=39.96...847&spn=0.011792,0.030513&t=k&om=1&iwloc=addr

Guy

 

[bobpbx]

That would make it too close to all 3 places if you were using the distances Tom gave in his earlier post Guy.

 

[Teegate]

Yea...I am not sure exactly where it is but it is on the division line between the two properties. The notes I have prove that. But where?

And you can never be too sure that the distances are correct. Remember they did not have an odometer then. Even the surveyors pulled chains through the woods.

Guy

 

[Boyd]

Remember they did not have an odometer then.

They may not have had an odometer... you're probably right, they used estimates when making maps. But it appears the odometer itself has been around for a long time

http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/bl_Odometer.htm

Hmm... then again, maybe they did have an odometer?...

Ben Franklin (1706–1790) is best known as a statesman and writer, however he was also an inventor who invented swim fins, bifocals, a glass armonica, watertight bulkheads for ships, the lightning rod, a wood stove, and an odometer. While serving as Postmaster General in 1775, Franklin decided to analyze the best routes for delivering the mail. He invented a simple odometer to help measure the mileage of the routes that he attached to his carriage.

 

[bobpbx]

My current guess is this area where Pole Bridge crosses route 70 where I put the Red X:

http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=39.94614&lon=-74.49167&size=l&u=4&datum=nad27&layer=DRG

 

[Teegate]

Maybe they did, but then why say "about"? Why not say 3.2 or 2.1?

Guy