Lawrence Line Survey

cszipper

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Alan,

The old NJ Geological Survey topo maps show the Lawrence Line.
Budd Lake (1906): https://www.nj.gov/dep/njgs/enviroed/Sheets/as25_1906.pdf
Budd Lake (1974): https://www.nj.gov/dep/njgs/enviroed/Sheets/as25_1974.pdf

They've digitized a lot of their old maps at: https://www.nj.gov/dep/njgs/enviroed/freepubs.htm#oldpubs

Some years ago, before I got interested in the Lawrence Line, I was out to the 95 Mile Tree fire tower on my mountain bike. Other than that I don't know much about the line south of the Musconetcong. I'd also be interested in anything interesting you turn up about the Budd Lake area.

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AlanFulton

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Thank you for that. The firetower is walking distance for me and spent a lifetime growing up here and running around in the woods. I found this stone going down what used to be Station Road. I always knew it was there , but recently a friend was telling me about the Lawrence Line and it popped up in my head. It is not a mile from Waterloo Village though. It ALMOST seems to follow a Lawrence Line I saw on wikipedia , but not quite.... however technology was radically different back then. These are the coordinates in case I forget. It seems closer to the line that cut across Tilcon Lake. All of this may have been within margin of error a couple hundred years ago.

40°54'14.2"N 74°45'29.2"W
Water bottle for scale
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Boyd

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These are the coordinates in case I forget.

It makes things easier if you use decimal degrees. :) If I did the conversion correctly, this is the location on the 19th century and 20th century USGS topo maps

https://online.boydsmaps.com/#14/40.9039/-74.7581/njginHist
https://online.boydsmaps.com/#15/40.9039/-74.7581/njgin24k

Or use your phone as a GPS

https://mobile.boydsmaps.com/#14.00/40.903944/-74.758111/njginHist/0.00/0.00 https://mobile.boydsmaps.com/#15.00/40.903944/-74.758111/njgin24k/0.00/0.00

@cszipper - I have the 19th century Vermuele NJ topo's on my site, but only for Southern NJ (turning them into a seamless online map is a big project). Had not seen those maps from the 1970's before, very cool. Will have to see what else is available there one of these days.
 
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AlanFulton

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Does not look too far off. The map on the wiki page is this and the marker I found is still a little left of that line. But this line runs well west of Water loo Village. It may just be a property marker instead.


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Teegate

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It is just a monument and not a stone. Let me look over my information tonight and get back to you.
 

Teegate

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First, the line just clips Budd Lake.

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I am doing this quickly so stay tuned for updates.

At this location, which may not be correct and I will update soon, is/was a National Geodetic Survey marker #1018 on the Lawrence Line. They could not find it which you will see soon.


40.896886
-74.748350
 
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Teegate

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Other info I have says it is closer to this location but I would disagree. The one above is more accurate when I run the line.

40.896983
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They do not give coordinates on these two mile points. I would have to try and figure that out myself.

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Teegate

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As you can see the info in this area is scarce. John Taylor who was in charge was from down this way and more than likely did not have all the time in the world to research that area. He relied on others.


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The oak tree mentioned above.

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