Off Roading!!!!

olypenjeeper

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a suzuki samurai imo is a great woods rig. where i lived in nw washington state on the the olympic peninsula, guys would build them for really cheap and they fit on any trail, including quad trails. parts are everywhere for them too, and toyota parts are easy to fit also, ie axles ect. i say do it man.
and a 40 tire is just stupid, my cherokee with a 5 inch lift and 33's would outwheel a pos mud truck any day, other than trying to run deep holes which i hate anyways.
 

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olypenjeeper

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thanks, i actually don't have the cherokee anymore unfortunately. it was pretty awesome, 4.56 gears, detroit lockers, skids, winch , swapped in dana 44 axle in the back all sorts of other junk too. it really did go just about anywhere. i have a tacoma now, i just put a small lift 1.75 billstein 5100 adjustables in the front and a one inch block in the rear with 265/75/16 nitto terra grapplers. i'm looking forward to exploring the pine barrens this winter and doing some camping.
 

rjb

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Are there any charts or maps about pine barren dirty roads?

I have a Jeep Trailblazer. On satellite imaging there appears to be many dirt roads in the pine barrens. Just wondering if there was any guide to what ones are open to the public, etc. There appears to be a dirt road that parallels Rt 70 on the south side between the circle that takes you to Fort Dix and the Rt 72 circle. I drove part of it but re-entered rt 70. I always wondered if there was a through dirt road to the other side of the state in case of a Lacey nuclear plant meltdown or escaping a hurricane if the main roads became jammed. I would be coming from the Beachwood,South Toms River area.
 

MarkBNJ

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I have a Jeep Trailblazer. On satellite imaging there appears to be many dirt roads in the pine barrens. Just wondering if there was any guide to what ones are open to the public, etc. There appears to be a dirt road that parallels Rt 70 on the south side between the circle that takes you to Fort Dix and the Rt 72 circle. I drove part of it but re-entered rt 70. I always wondered if there was a through dirt road to the other side of the state in case of a Lacey nuclear plant meltdown or escaping a hurricane if the main roads became jammed. I would be coming from the Beachwood,South Toms River area.
If it's marked on a map it's legal to drive on, or that's the rule as I always understood it. If it isn't marked, then technically I think you'd be in violation.

OP: you've built completely the wrong kind of truck for exploring woods of any kind. You'd just be pushing tree limbs out of the way with your windhield all day, and since there is no way you can take a rig like that into the woods without tearing stuff up, just don't. You need to go out to Rouch in PA, or some park like that.
 
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Did greenpeace move in? Wow I thought the Pine Barrens were for the People. There are roads to take if you want mud. And there are websites out there to help you to that end. Sounds like to me the Nature nuts (me too, to a point) are taking over Wharton State Forest for their own nature preserve!
 

Ben Ruset

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Mud is one thing, digging huge ruts in the road is another. I don't begrudge anybody their fun (on roads) just as long as they're not making the road impassable for my truck.
 
Did greenpeace move in? Wow I thought the Pine Barrens were for the People. There are roads to take if you want mud. And there are websites out there to help you to that end. Sounds like to me the Nature nuts (me too, to a point) are taking over Wharton State Forest for their own nature preserve!
The Pine Barrens is a reserve, that's why it's called the Pinelands National Reserve and why the United Nations calls it an International Biosphere Reserve
 

Ben Ruset

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The Pine Barrens is a reserve, that's why it's called the Pinelands National Reserve and why the United Nations calls it an International Biosphere Reserve
Remember that the next time you see the Pinelands Commission approve the development of a McMansion in the Pine Barrens.
 

manumuskin

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look on aerials for gravel pits,they have some of the biggest mud holes in them,also aerials will show flooded roads.bing aerials are great for finding flooded roads and ponds in gravel pits.try not to go in pits thats are obviously not mudded in because they may be habitats for endangered slamanders.if the pit looks well slopped up you know it's in regular use and not inhabited by anything endangered because it's already been wiped out there.
Al
 

HeathenClerk

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Friends and I started trekking around the pines late at night during high school either in a Ford Taurus or, occasionally, my 1988 Camaro (it was interesting but also very limiting). This was mostly just to drive around, listen to some low music and bullshit without having our parents around or needing to be at the godforsaken mall (and what mall was open past ten anyway).

After this, I went and traded up to an 89 Chevy Beretta, which became the vehicle of choice for those late night excursions that usually took us literally all over the southern half of New Jersey (for a while, we tried to buy a Jolt Cola in a different 7-11 or Krauser's we'd never been to nor seen before; at some point in the dead of winter we started driving Route 9 straight from Toms River to Cape May for a week straight just to get something at the 7-11 in downtown Cape May. After the fourth night the clerk asked us where we lived. The reaction to "near Toms River - no, we aren't vacationing - yes, we drove down here just for this, and we took Route 9 the whole way" was great. Ahh, for the time when gas was only ninety cents a gallon and we had nothing at all to do).

A few years ago, I got a 98 Jeep Grand Cherokee, straight six and all stock. I still occasionally get out there with the old friends and it's pretty much still a night of trying to scare the shit out of each other (honking the horn after an indeterminate amount of time while the half expectant victim is standing outside in the dark peeing off the last Wawa coffee has been the most popular sport for years).

We never caused an issue, never threw trash out the window, and never tooled around beyond occasionally speeding up to

GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY OF A GIANT MONSTER MUD VEHICLE TEARING DOWN THE TRAIL.

Now, at this point I understand if many feel our use of riding through the firetrails to be particularly milquetoast and dull, but for us it was a stand-in for the lack of a proper late night hangout in suburban Jersey Shore between going out on dates with our girlfriends (who we took out to the firetrails apart from the group for ulterior motives not suitable for print). At our time of night it was also rare to run into the mud flappin looney, but the few occasions we did it was almost always a bad and obnoxious trip.

The moral of this morass of memories? When in the Pine Barrens, have fun but don't be a dick.
 

PINEY MIKE

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Did greenpeace move in? Wow I thought the Pine Barrens were for the People. There are roads to take if you want mud. And there are websites out there to help you to that end. Sounds like to me the Nature nuts (me too, to a point) are taking over Wharton State Forest for their own nature preserve!
They are for the people (and lets not forget nature), not jackasses with huge trucks making the roads impassable for sport. Most of us have trucks (myself included), so this post isn't aimed at everyone with trucks, just the idiots who think tearing up the roads is cool. The fine line between exploring and destroying doesn't seemed to have sunk in with some people here. I believe that is the sole argument made by many on this thread.
 

mudboy dave

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They are for the people (and lets not forget nature), not jackasses with huge trucks making the roads impassable for sport. Most of us have trucks (myself included), so this post isn't aimed at everyone with trucks, just the idiots who think tearing up the roads is cool. The fine line between exploring and destroying doesn't seemed to have sunk in with some people here. I believe that is the sole argument made by many on this thread.
Hense the reason a place is needed. As I said before nothing is going to even slow down until a park of some sort is open. Its a growing sport. I'm doing my part by having the mud bog up at new egypt however it's just not enough to keep all the mud addicted guys out of the pines. I've been threw tyhis before. I personally believe the mud in the pine barrens blows. its either deep water and sand. which is no challenge at all or bottomless black mud which is no challenge at all (instant stuck). Some goodw ole sand mines with clay mud holes or asome old dredging area would be ideal. Allk done with my 2 cents. I'm also sure you guys know by now that I do not agree with just purposley tearing up the pines.
 

MuckSavage

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Big trucks can roll gently thru the pines. It's when the driver's brain short circuits, he dumps it in 2wd in a puddle & decides to power-brake.

Dave, you're doing a great job! I applaud you, but I don't think you can't stop it. It's the same with street racing, & I'm guilty of that one. Atco Dragway's 10 minutes from home, but I was always up for a race, no matter where.
 
Hense the reason a place is needed. As I said before nothing is going to even slow down until a park of some sort is open. Its a growing sport. I'm doing my part by having the mud bog up at new egypt however it's just not enough to keep all the mud addicted guys out of the pines. I've been threw tyhis before. I personally believe the mud in the pine barrens blows. its either deep water and sand. which is no challenge at all or bottomless black mud which is no challenge at all (instant stuck). Some goodw ole sand mines with clay mud holes or asome old dredging area would be ideal. Allk done with my 2 cents. I'm also sure you guys know by now that I do not agree with just purposley tearing up the pines.

Is there not an off-roading park off Savoy Blvd? Maybe it's not for trucks; I wouldn't know.