ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

Discussion in 'Land Use Issues' started by Teegate, Jul 18, 2015.

  1. manumuskin

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    If I was a ranger He wouldn't have got away. I can swim and would.
     
  2. 46er

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    And he had his service pistol. No excuse, none. :clint:
     
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  3. 46er

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    I wonder if that was a PPA Pinelands Adventure trip? :D Closing roads will just crowd folks onto what is open, doing damage in new places that would not have happened otherwise. And the ignorant ones will still be doing what they will on the closed roads.
     
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  4. manumuskin

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    well I don't think I would have shot him,drowned Him maybe but not shot him.They can trace ballsitics:)
    On second thought shooting a hole in his beer woulda been way cool!
     
  5. MikeBickerson

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    Wish I kept on top of things better :(
     
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  8. 46er

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    The inner tube Al, the inner tube. Ever see a drunk try to swim :D
     
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  9. manumuskin

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    I have seen them try and I"ve known a couple that have drowned trying. Thats a good idea. Then I could perform a rescue instead of a murder,then an arrest.I"d be a double hero! You know I really don't care that people get toasted while floating the rivers but I really do get pissed about where they inevitably throw their cans and bottles.
     
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    You put quite a bit of time and effort making this. And very exact and direct. Nice!
     
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  11. SuperChooch

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    Thanks! I've updated the post to include links to our state Senate and Assembly.
     
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  12. SuperChooch

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    Did you ever wind up talking to District 1? I'm curious what they have to say about this. Have they been give updated regulations that give them the ability to enforce this or are they currently "suggestions". Given we know the "maps" aren't complete, I wonder how they know what to enforce?
     
  13. 46er

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    Left a message, no call back yet. They are probably too busy writing out summonses. :ninja:

    BTW, sending letters to fed rep's will probably just get you a return form letter from a clerk saying you should contact your state rep.
     
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    From the PPA site, they want support from the state level.
    Enduro Policy

    Download Enduro Policy
    Enduro Policy - 206.2KB
    DEP policy for Enduro Events.


    The State Park Service plans to apply this model to the other state forests throughout New Jersey.

    Now, the State needs to hear from the public. Tell DEP that you support this plan to manage motorized recreation in the state forest because it protects natural resources and helps to minimize the staff time it takes to oversee these events.

    This approach is a significant improvement over the last 30 years of costly, ineffective management. Wharton State Forest Superintendent, Robert Auermuller, is to be applauded and supported for this extensive effort.

    If you have additional time, contact your state assemblyperson and senator to share your support for the State Park Service plan. You can find your legislator email and phone number by visiting http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/members/legsearch.asp .

    http://www.pinelandsalliance.org/protection/hotissues/ecological/offroadvehicles/
     
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    No. He should be transferred to Stokes State Forest.
     
  17. Boyd

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    Take a look at the "Street Legal Vehicles" section at that link and this policy: http://www.pinelandsalliance.org/downloads/pinelandsalliance_576.pdf

    Note that it is dated January 2011 - four and a half years ago - and it sounds like this is exactly what they have done in Wharton.

    6. The state lands authorities should post “No Motorized Vehicles” signs at points where people
    are habitually gaining access to damaged areas.

    7. The state lands authorities should shut off access to damaged areas and close roads when
    conditions, such as inundation, contribute to the risk that such roads will continue to be damaged by specially equipped vehicles, making it impossible for the general public to travel these roads.

    12. Volunteer programs need to be created to help provide resources for marking trails, posting off limit areas, and patrolling the parks.
     
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    In looking at the map of damaged and areas with trash, I found 3 different ones where the same photo was used for 2 different sites but maybe that was a mistake I made. I am just unsure why every picture is labeled ORV, truck, damage, even ones that are just trash. Am I to guess it is because a truck mostly was used to bring the trash out there?
     
  19. 46er

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    Yep, I posted the same earlier in this thread; makes you wonder who's running Wharton doesn't it?

    These are the people of the PPA; some familiar names.

    http://www.pinelandsalliance.org/support/about/staff/

    And the latest financial statement, posted in another thread;

    http://www.pinelandsalliance.org/downloads/pinelandsalliance_1222.pdf
     
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  20. Teegate

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    Sure does.