Pine Barren Flora

bobpbx

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I am really starting to appreciate the trophy black gum I'm seeing at the edge of spungs. They are really nice trees.

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bobpbx

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Is the Rhynchospora inundata by a plane crash site?

No, Greenwood Forest. You'd be pleased to see what good old Greenwood has yielded this year. I've also found a patch of over 3,000 rhynchospora microcephala and a patch of over 1,500 Rhynchospora kneiskernii here.
 

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Yesterday, I walked a good section of the stream affected by the fire. It was very tough going at times (think blasted high-bush blueberry branches, stiff and sooty, trying to hold you back), but fascinating. Everywhere the vegetation was coming back very strong, and usually of a size and quantity not frequently encountered in the pines. Some of it may have never sprouted here before if not for the fire.

I'll not name any of this in case someone wants to take a stab at identification of some (or all) of them.

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Yesterday, I walked a good section of the stream affected by the fire. It was very tough going at times (think blasted high-bush blueberry branches, stiff and sooty, trying to hold you back), but fascinating. Everywhere the vegetation was coming back very strong, and usually of a size and quantity not frequently encountered in the pines. Some of it may have never sprouted here before if not for the fire.

I'll not name any of this in case someone wants to take a stab at identification of some (or all) of them.

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I"d say first pic below aerial is Burdock.seventh below is wild lettuce.
 

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Al, on those two, you may be teaching me something, but for those two my initial response is Catalpa tree for the first one and Fire Weed for the second one. We could both be wrong. Maybe others have more knowledge about them.

By Fire-weed, I mean Erechtites hieraciifolia
 
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GermanG

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The leaf edges are a little toothy for Catalpa. I was thinking maybe Paulonia. But then again, the petioles look kinda fleshy. If that's the case Burdock could very well be possible. The clump-like leaf arrangement points to that species as well. But where are the velcro burrs? It's already September. Hmmm
 
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Al, on those two, you may be teaching me something, but for those two my initial response is Catalpa tree for the first one and Fire Weed for the second one. We could both be wrong. Maybe others have more knowledge about them.

By Fire-weed, I mean Erechtites hieraciifolia
I think you may right.I would have never suspected a baby catalpa in the barrens but they do grow around people places.That could very well be fireweed too but wild lettuce does look similar.On the burdock I looked for burs and saw none but the stems don't look tree like.Usually trees atrt out with woody stems quite quickly. Also That does look like lettuce to me.I"m going to have to google a bit.My answers were my first impressions.
 

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The leaf edges are a little toothy for Catalpa. I was thinking maybe Paulonia. But then again, the petioles look kinda fleshy. If that's the case Burdock could very well be possible. The clump-like leaf arrangement points to that species as well. But where are the velcro burrs? It's already September. Hmmm
German I must say on the Paulonia I think your right.leaf shape and texture isn't right for burdock and as i said below catalpa being a tree starts with one woody stem and the leaf is also different and unserrated.
 

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The leaf edges are a little toothy for Catalpa. I was thinking maybe Paulonia. But then again, the petioles look kinda fleshy. If that's the case Burdock could very well be possible. The clump-like leaf arrangement points to that species as well. But where are the velcro burrs? It's already September. Hmmm

Yeah, those serrations on the margin bothered me too German. Check out this 10 foot Catalpa monster just off 539 on the Chamberlin Branch. Maybe the later leaves don't have serrations?

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Check out Paulownia..... I'm thinking Paulownia on the 539/Chamberlin. Also on pic #1, but Al may be thinking of Velvet leaf (Abutilon theophrasti) in first pic...I did as well and still not convinced. But I don't believe to be Catalpa. I am leaning to Paulownia on pic #1..... Paulownia shows up in disturbed & previously inhabited areas too. We discussed this in a Pinelands Fire workshop. The wood was valuable at one time for inlay, instruments, and boxes... and it was widely grown in this area. I have seen it occasionally in the pines, close to old settlements. Also according to Wikipedia "early colonizers of sterile soils, especially after high temperature wildfires." Interesting read on the species.

Then: #2 ???, charcoal :), D. scoparium, ditto, Fimbristylus autumnalis?, Yes Erichtites Yes, charcoal again, fan leaves ???, Juncus acuminatus, jointweed, muhly torreyana, Peanuts!, field of Peanuts! Panicum verrucosum, P virgatum, rhexia mariana (pretty sure), andropogon virginicus, "golfballs" (Scleria), ditto close up, field of muhly?

Cheers...Terry
 
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