Pineland Commission approves pipeline
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Here's a link to an article about the action of the Pinelands Commission regarding two pipeline projects.
http://www.njspotlight.com/stories/...roposals-kicked-back-to-pinelands-commission/
http://www.njspotlight.com/stories/...roposals-kicked-back-to-pinelands-commission/
The contracts run out the day of inauguration, doubtful that Trump can make a difference in that case. The pipeline in the pinelands cannot begin any drilling until it is brought back for a commission vote, where it was twice rejected before. I don't think you fully understand the situation.
Personally I don' t think you can compare the DAPL and this NG pipeline in NJ. One is crude oil and one in NG.
I am all for alternative fuels, specifically hydrogen power, as solar and wind aren't feasible with current technology (we get very little power out of a lot of used up space for ugly panels/turbines). Hydrogen will ALWAYS be available, as long as human life is sustainable. As for Natural Gas, I'm not totally against the proposed route that I saw in maps earlier in the thread. It doesn't look to go through any untouched, civilian accessible part of the pine barrens (unless I'm missing something, if so, please correct me). If the military base is okay with the pipeline running through their property, than that's their problem if it were to leak. Again, it's natural gas, not crude oil, I'm not as opposed to this pipeline, if it's needed/necessary for us one Oyster Creek shuts down.
EDIT: However, if the approval process happened by circumventing the appropriate authorities due to crooked government workers, then THAT I have a problem with.
I am all for alternative fuels, specifically hydrogen power, as solar and wind aren't feasible with current technology (we get very little power out of a lot of used up space for ugly panels/turbines). Hydrogen will ALWAYS be available, as long as human life is sustainable. As for Natural Gas, I'm not totally against the proposed route that I saw in maps earlier in the thread. It doesn't look to go through any untouched, civilian accessible part of the pine barrens (unless I'm missing something, if so, please correct me). If the military base is okay with the pipeline running through their property, than that's their problem if it were to leak. Again, it's natural gas, not crude oil, I'm not as opposed to this pipeline, if it's needed/necessary for us one Oyster Creek shuts down.
EDIT: However, if the approval process happened by circumventing the appropriate authorities due to crooked government workers, then THAT I have a problem with.
Exactly, it's about the stacking of the commission and rendering it's authority obsolete. The pipeline being built marks the beginning of the end of the Pinelands national reserve.
By the way, Germany just passed an entire year using only sustainable natural resources to sustain their nation. Excepting private use of vehicles, they used only solar, wind, geothermal, and hydroelectric power. Apple computer company stored so much solar energy that they had to sell the excess power they stored. It is possible to survive without fossil fuels and we need to switch soon.
Where did you get those stats?
They are not quite accurate. In 2015, renewable's met almost 33% of their gross electric consumption. On one day they did meet over 95%, but that was one day. Their plan calls for a 60% cut over in 2050, so they have a long expensive way to go, if they get there at all.
Just one of many reports on their plan.
http://www.economist.com/news/europ...onomy-has-his-work-cut-out-sunny-windy-costly
OK, my apologies
OK my apologies, I probably heard it wrong as reported by the young turks, I am probably guilty of that common human problem of memory.
The southern pipeline is supposed to run underneath Cumberland Pond, not sure what that will look / what the effects will be when they lay down the pipe, if anything ruptures, and if they need to do repairs.
I haven't heard of this southern pipeline.Do you have a map or description of the route? Manumuskin is one of the two streams in NJ with virtually pristine water quality.I"d like evry much to see the route of this pipeline.
It has been discussed pretty extensively here… it was so long ago, I was still a member of the PPA, LOL
From 2013: https://forums.njpinebarrens.com/threads/plan-to-put-gas-pipeline-in-pinelands-spurs-ire.9402/
Here is the presentation linked to in that thread: http://www.state.nj.us/pinelands/images/pdf files/SJG_Pinelands_Presentation_2013_09_27_final.pdf
I don't think that's a "new plan", is it? It is one of three different options they originally considered.
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The yellow line is a existing pipeline i seen that one last week.looks like they want to tie in to the 20 inch line already there.It has been discussed pretty extensively here… it was so long ago, I was still a member of the PPA, LOL
From 2013: https://forums.njpinebarrens.com/threads/plan-to-put-gas-pipeline-in-pinelands-spurs-ire.9402/
Here is the presentation linked to in that thread: http://www.state.nj.us/pinelands/images/pdf files/SJG_Pinelands_Presentation_2013_09_27_final.pdf
I don't think that's a "new plan", is it? It is one of three different options they originally considered.
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They want rt49 plan. drilling instead of open cut trenching.if it has to go I'm route A.road is already there.
If you read the report I linked to, they explain why they decided on "route A" and rejected B and C….
Yes I agree A is much better.Route C is through very nice woods and the last thing we need through there is another line.Some of the woods first rate barrens.
More on one of the proposed pipelines through the pine barrens: http://www.njspotlight.com/stories/...ject-up-for-approval-on-friday-after-6-years/