i alway lotion up my horse before i dive inAnd I never put suntan lotion on my horse before I ride him in Atsion lake
not really sure what you mean by that so i guess your back on selective readingI see your avatar contradicts you statements
the people who swim???? you are obviously against any recreational 4x4 use at all. to consider yourself a "wheeler" is an embarrassement to us, resonsible and non responsible. Hell even one of the vids that you posted against"jeep jamboree" at the "scar" was not even of the "jeep jamboree" and not at the "scar", but about 2-3 mile away. False statements such as this show the mentality within. Youre just another individual with the weakness of ELF/ALF. For you to believe that everyone in every other outdoor activity is an angel just because you participate in it, is more than enough for anyone to see that youre nothing but a joke. I will be sure to forward this thread to all appropriate contacts, even though most are probably already viewing. Now atleast I know I can take your posts with a grain of salt.And I never put suntan lotion on my horse before I ride him in Atsion lake
I don't work in the water works bud, I have the ability to measure it. So why don't you tell me? If I rember correctly though it all depends on what kind of hydrocarbon it is. Tell me the level of piss thats allowed in drinking water. Tell me the amount of trash thats allowed in the rivers. Tell me the amount of Horse shit it takes to change the PH level of frog habitat/puddle. You want proof of horses in wetlands I will happily start looking for piles of crap and prints. What we are getting at here is that no matter what if people are involved there will be contamination of some sort. There are irresponsible people in every hobby out there. Oh yeah, what do you think they use to start the control burns? Water? Oh and what do you think the rail road ties contain that are smack down in the middle of your wetlands. Why don't you start removing them since they are a contaminating your frogs and grass, Did they tell you they don't like the aresenic? Did they tell you they don't like the tar?Tell us the EPA limit for hydrocarbons in drinking water
And when the last time you road a horse in the Pines.
I did this week.
I never in 20 years rode my horse in wetlands and never saw anyone else do it.
To risky for an expensive fall
And horses or hikers or kayaks didn't destroy the wetlands and vernal pools and rare plants and frogs of the Scar
Illegal 4 wheelers did.
Here's my proof
View attachment 1954
Where is yours
HMMMMM still don't look as bad as the roadwork they are doing up by the oyster creek on the Garden State Parkway.
HMMMMM still don't look as bad as the roadwork they are doing up by the oyster creek on the Garden State Parkway.
I don't work in the water works bud, I have the ability to measure it. So why don't you tell me? If I rember correctly though it all depends on what kind of hydrocarbon it is. Tell me the level of piss thats allowed in drinking water. Tell me the amount of trash thats allowed in the rivers. Tell me the amount of Horse shit it takes to change the PH level of frog habitat/puddle. You want proof of horses in wetlands I will happily start looking for piles of crap and prints. What we are getting at here is that no matter what if people are involved there will be contamination of some sort. There are irresponsible people in every hobby out there. Oh yeah, what do you think they use to start the control burns? Water? Oh and what do you think the rail road ties contain that are smack down in the middle of your wetlands. Why don't you start removing them since they are a contaminating your frogs and grass, Did they tell you they don't like the aresenic? Did they tell you they don't like the tar?
the people who swim???? you are obviously against any recreational 4x4 use at all. to consider yourself a "wheeler" is an embarrassement to us, resonsible and non responsible. Hell even one of the vids that you posted against"jeep jamboree" at the "scar" was not even of the "jeep jamboree" and not at the "scar", but about 2-3 mile away. False statements such as this show the mentality within. Youre just another individual with the weakness of ELF/ALF. For you to believe that everyone in every other outdoor activity is an angel just because you participate in it, is more than enough for anyone to see that youre nothing but a joke. I will be sure to forward this thread to all appropriate contacts, even though most are probably already viewing. Now atleast I know I can take your posts with a grain of salt.
why is because a swamp is torn up there all illegal 4 wheelers ? latley its been so dry out nothing but stock trucks hang out back there so they can go home and tell there friends they were back 1/4 mile and feel cool , but in reality the big trucks who actually wheel dont even go there because it kinda sucks for wheelin
Even if they are not at the scar they are illegally driving through wetlands.
These are labeled Videos, Jamboree 09 http://rides.webshots.com/album/572021657MVjEkU
They are driving in wetlands at the scar
Every other out door activity is not destroying wetlands, killing rare frogs and rare plants at the scar on a daily basis.
Denial is a sad thing
Even if they are not at the scar they are illegally driving through wetlands.
These are labeled Videos, Jamboree 09 http://rides.webshots.com/album/572021657MVjEkU
They are driving in wetlands at the scar
Every other out door activity is not destroying wetlands, killing rare frogs and rare plants at the scar on a daily basis.
Denial is a sad thing
The deer population in Wharton produces 1,000+ more manure that an occasion horse.
So that myths busted
And most horse owners clean up after their horses.
Ad opposed to the illegal 4 wheelers at the scar.
In 30 years I never saw horses ride or manure in the wetlands.
For illegal 4 wheelers driving in wetlands, just look at Devilstorys avatar
And that are isn't a NJDEP Natural Heritage priority site with globally rare species
I'm sure you ran over a few frogs , they told me personally