TICKS!

suresue592003

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I am a nurse, and guess what...you can see deer ticks if you look real hard. And they are the size of a pin head. I recently removed one from a friend. It was under her arm and she thought it was a mole. I never did see the legs on it until I applied pressure on the tweezers. Chiggers usually bury and stay awhile, they will move around pretty quick sometimes, where as ticks crawl slowly. Yes Capttom you are right, it was Albie I was talking about. He was there today enjoying a cold one. Which road are you referring too? I thought he lived on the main road in Chatsworth.
 

capttom

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no they arent chiggers...thank god..i had them last year....fromwhat i just read on the net it looks like they are lone star ticks in the nymph stage...thay are kinds rust colored...and the few big ones that were mixed in had the white dot on there backs...i was just alittle freaked out that there were so many of them on me...thanx for pointing out that they werent deer ticks....i feel much better now...thanx for the help.....tom
 

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Ticks in general carry other diseases than Lyme, so careful checking as it appears you are doing is best.

Guy
 

capttom

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suresue592003 said:
I am a nurse, and guess what...you can see deer ticks if you look real hard. And they are the size of a pin head. I recently removed one from a friend. It was under her arm and she thought it was a mole. I never did see the legs on it until I applied pressure on the tweezers. Chiggers usually bury and stay awhile, they will move around pretty quick sometimes, where as ticks crawl slowly. Yes Capttom you are right, it was Albie I was talking about. He was there today enjoying a cold one. Which road are you referring too? I thought he lived on the main road in Chatsworth.[/quotwell i havent been to albies house in a few years but it was on sooy place road....on the part that is dirton the east side of 563...if you understand where i mean.....if were talking about the same albie he builds small housing devolopments in chatsworth..
 

suresue592003

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Capttom, Sooy Place Road is all tar from Rt 70 to where it comes out at next to the Hedger House. It sounds like you are discribing South Park Road which is half
dirt/tar. That is where my old house stands, two story red, in the middle of a field. All other houses are on the tar road side down near Sooy Place Road intersection. On this same road, on the dirt part is Garden State Gun Club and South Park Gun Club.
.................Sue.....................
 
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BarryC

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I was out yesterday with my neice and one of Sue's sons, as I stated in another post. Well when we were in Atsion, and walked behind the school to that private property we ended up with what seemed like a few hundred ticks on us! A few were normal big-tick size (Lone-star ticks I guess), but most were smaller than the head of a pin. They were all on our pant legs, or bare legs in the case of my neice.
After we got them all off of ourselves we sprayed each other down with Off. After that we didn't get anymore. I don't know if it's because of the Off, or because we just didn't happen to walk near any after that. I don't know.
Barry
 
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bach2yoga

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There's a lot of misinformation about ticks and chiggers. Lone star ticks are itty bitty at certain points and often mistaken for chiggers.
Chiggers are actually tropical mites that don't live around here. What we call chiggers are actually redbugs. Some people, naturalists, etc., don't believe we have them (redbugs/chiggers) at all.
Certain ticks have 6 legs and 8 legs at different points of their lives, as do chiggers/redbugs.
If you can see it, and it looks really, really tiny, it probably is NOT a chigger (redbug) but a lone star tick. Redbugs need to be seen under a handlens or microscope and are, naturally, red. Chiggers (okay, i'm calling them chiggers, but you know I mean redbugs) are not out yet. The temperature is not consistently warm enough for them--and when it is, app August, the lone star ticks will have gone through an entire life cycle that will culminate in new babies out in--you guessed it, August.
Also, chiggers (redbugs) do not burrow; that's an old wives tale. They wipe off easily, with rubbing alcohol or bug spray. They secrete an enzyme that essentially dissolves human tissue. This enzyme creates a sort of drinking straw through your skin called a stylostome. This stylostome is the cause of the torrential itching that will follow for the next several weeks. Then the enzyme is injected, so to speak, through the stylostome, where it continues to dissolve more tissue so the chiggers can eat, essentially, a human milkshake. After feeding, the chigger will drop off and will be, incidentally, vegetarian for the remainder of its life. It does this only one time, and if it does not do this, it will not survive.
Thus, efforts to smother the chiggers with nailpolish, etc., are in vain, as the chigger is, by the time you are itching, no longer there. It is the stylostomethat remains to drive you insane, and no amount of nailpolish will stop that....it may, however,help deter you from scratching, which can lead to a secondary infection.
Renee
 
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bach2yoga

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I didn't learn all of that til the last two years or so, when I had about 90 bites between 2 feet and in true Renee style, had to research it.
BTW, the most effective is DEET or permanone....if you dare.
Off and things like that don't seem to touch the ticks or chiggers for me, anyway. And rubber boots help, they can't climb up them very well. I wore my rubber hip waders all through the summer, hot as anything, but it kept me relatively bite free.
Renee
 
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bach2yoga

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http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2100.html
Bites
Chigger larvae do not burrow into the skin, nor suck blood. They pierce the skin and inject into the host a salivary secretion containing powerful, digestive enzymes that break down skin cells that are ingested (tissues become liquefied and sucked up). Also, this digestive fluid causes surrounding tissues to harden, forming a straw-like feeding tube of hardened flesh (stylostome) from which further, partially-digested skin cells may be sucked out. After a larva is fully fed in four days, it drops from the host, leaving a red welt with a white, hard central area on the skin that itches severely and may later develop into dermatitis. Any welts, swelling, itching, or fever will usually develop three to six hours after exposure and may continue a week or longer. If nothing is done to relieve itching, symptoms may continue a week or more. Scratching a bite may break the skin, resulting in secondary infections. However, chiggers are not known to transmit any disease in this country.

Control Measures
Skin Care
After returning from a chigger-infested area, launder the field clothes in soapy, hot water (125°F.) for about half an hour. Infested clothes should not be worn again until they are properly laundered and/or exposed to hot sunshine. Unlaundered clothes or those laundered in cool water will contain the biting chiggers to again reinfest your skin. As soon as possible, take a good hot bath or shower and soap repeatedly. The chiggers may be dislodged, but you will still have the stylostomes, causing the severe itch. Scratching deep to remove stylostomes can cause secondary infections. For temporary relief of itching, apply ointments of benzocaine, hydrocortisone, calamine lotion, New Skin, After Bite, or others recommended by your pharmacist or medical doctor. Some use Vaseline, cold cream, baby oil, or fingernail polish. (The sooner the treatment, the better the results.)
 
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bach2yoga

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In NJ we have 3 (or 4) types of ticks:
Deer tick, Wood or American dog tick, and lone star tick. There is a 4th tick, a brown dog tick, that primarily is found in kennels and feeds on dogs.

http://www.visitmonmouth.com/mosquito/ticks.html

From a north carolina website on lone star ticks:

Ticks
It is feeding time in Lone Star Country (not the restaurant, but the tick). We are at the time of the year when people engaged in outdoor work or recreational activities may be experiencing close encounters with ticks. We received a number of samples and calls about severe biting around the feet and legs in general by small reddish chigger-like insects. What people are running into are the seed ticks or larval stage of the lone star tick. This particular tick appears to be most common in the Coastal Plain area of the state, but seem to showing up quite often in parts of the Piedmont, as well. They tend to be found in areas along the edges of woods, particularly if deer are in abundance. Nymphs and adults are most active during the spring. Female ticks deposit their eggs in masses during the spring. The eggs hatch in late July to September and the larvae remain active during this same period. All stages of the lone star tick feed on humans, dogs and other large mammals.

The bites of the seed ticks often produce red irritating bumps or papules on the feet and legs.
 

capttom

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The bites of the seed ticks often produce red irritating bumps or papules on the feet and legs.........................tell me about it!!!!...LOL..tom
 

njvike

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bach2yoga said:
In NJ we have 3 (or 4) types of ticks:
Deer tick, Wood or American dog tick, and lone star tick. There is a 4th tick, a brown dog tick, that primarily is found in kennels and feeds on dogs.

http://www.visitmonmouth.com/mosquito/ticks.html

From a north carolina website on lone star ticks:

Ticks
It is feeding time in Lone Star Country (not the restaurant, but the tick). We are at the time of the year when people engaged in outdoor work or recreational activities may be experiencing close encounters with ticks. We received a number of samples and calls about severe biting around the feet and legs in general by small reddish chigger-like insects. What people are running into are the seed ticks or larval stage of the lone star tick. This particular tick appears to be most common in the Coastal Plain area of the state, but seem to showing up quite often in parts of the Piedmont, as well. They tend to be found in areas along the edges of woods, particularly if deer are in abundance. Nymphs and adults are most active during the spring. Female ticks deposit their eggs in masses during the spring. The eggs hatch in late July to September and the larvae remain active during this same period. All stages of the lone star tick feed on humans, dogs and other large mammals.

The bites of the seed ticks often produce red irritating bumps or papules on the feet and legs.


WOW! After reading this, I can't wait to go hiking ;-)
 
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bach2yoga

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Permanone permanone permanone (permethrin)...available at your local Walmart in the fishing and sporting goods section...on your clothes only, spray before you put them on, and let them dry before dressing. Do NOT spray on your body. Tuck in pants into socks. Shirt into pants. Wear a hat. Maybe duck tape the area from your socks to your pants, guerilla style. That definitely helps.
Renee
 

capttom

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There's a lot of misinformation about ticks and chiggers. Lone star ticks are itty bitty at certain points and often mistaken for chiggers.
Chiggers are actually tropical mites that don't live around here. What we call chiggers are actually redbugs. Some people, naturalists, etc., don't believe we have them (redbugs/chiggers) at all.
Certain ticks have 6 legs and 8 legs at different points of their lives, as do chiggers/redbugs.............................................................................................well tell those naturalists etc.. to come to chatsworth in august and stand in my buddies back yard for a couple of minutes...right in the tall grass by the lake.....the will become beleivers that night when they are laying in bed tring to scratch the skin right off there legs....you dont see anything it just itches,,,then in a day or two they start yo look like mosqueto bites..execpt they itch 24 hours a day...then the white straw as i call it is visable..you get kinda a claer fluid coming out of it..then out of desperation you go to the store and get chigger x.....and it actually stops itchin for a couple of minutes.....i know the differance between chiggers and lone star ticks..ive been bit by both....the ticks you can see..even though they are miniscule in size....but ive never been able to see the chiggers...im sure alot of peeps on this board have had chiggers before and they know that they are real.........
 

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hi gang, try to read,beg,or steal a copy of the recent ny times, new jersey section.........nice article on the pine barrens..........sort of an update on john mcphee...........press on, strom
 

Teegate

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Strom,

I did a search on their website and could not find it. I guess I am out of luck on this one. There was apparently a photographic collection in the NYT on May 9 on the pines which I also missed.

Guy
 
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bach2yoga

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capttom said:
There's a lot of misinformation about ticks and chiggers. Lone star ticks are itty bitty at certain points and often mistaken for chiggers.
Chiggers are actually tropical mites that don't live around here. What we call chiggers are actually redbugs. Some people, naturalists, etc., don't believe we have them (redbugs/chiggers) at all.
Certain ticks have 6 legs and 8 legs at different points of their lives, as do chiggers/redbugs.............................................................................................well tell those naturalists etc.. to come to chatsworth in august and stand in my buddies back yard for a couple of minutes...right in the tall grass by the lake.....the will become beleivers that night when they are laying in bed tring to scratch the skin right off there legs....you dont see anything it just itches,,,then in a day or two they start yo look like mosqueto bites..execpt they itch 24 hours a day...then the white straw as i call it is visable..you get kinda a claer fluid coming out of it..then out of desperation you go to the store and get chigger x.....and it actually stops itchin for a couple of minutes.....i know the differance between chiggers and lone star ticks..ive been bit by both....the ticks you can see..even though they are miniscule in size....but ive never been able to see the chiggers...im sure alot of peeps on this board have had chiggers before and they know that they are real.........

I have been bitten by them (redbugs), I also agree they are around here. Kristen has too. But a lot of people don't know the difference between them, was the point. The lone star tick babies can look like mere specks of moving dirt. And chiggers don't burrow or suck blood, contrary to what most of us have been told growing up. You're exactly right about the lone star being miniscule that time of year--which is why a lot of people mistake them for chiggers. But it sounds like you know the difference. :wink:

And they do itch like hell....for weeks.....they wake you in the middle of the night every couple of hours to torment you until you scratch them enough that they start to bleed...it's enough to put you in tears if you have thin skin and a lot of bites.

Renee
 
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bach2yoga

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For you who doubt my veracity and wonder where my "questionable trivia" came from, (not talking about you, Tom) I did a control H to bring up the history of the websites I consulted. Methinks it might be wiser to check your facts before making ad hominem attacks and insinuations.... :rolleyes: If you have any questions on any other "questionable trivia" I have posted, let me know, and I will do my best to supply you with my sources for those as well.
The greatest majority of the sites are university sites and co-operative extensions and government sites. As part of my research, I feel it is imperative to evaluate the reliability and accuracy of the websites I use.
Here is the list of sites I consulted.
Renee

NC Co-operative Extension, Agricultural Agent
http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/gaston/Pests/ticks.html
Conservation Commission of Missouri, Nina Bicknese, Natural History Biologist
http://mdc.mo.gov/nathis/arthopo/chiggers/
E-nature field guide
http://www.enature.com/fieldguide/showRguide.asp?rguideID=713&speciesID=3724
Rhode Island Department of Health
http://www.health.ri.gov/disease/communicable/lyme/idcard.htm
Health Central encyclopedia
http://www.healthcentral.com/mhc/top/001333.cfm
Duke University
http://healthydevil.studentaffairs.duke.edu/health_information/chiggers.html
Clemson University Cooperating with U.S. Department of Agriculture, South Carolina Counties, Extension Service, Clemson, South Carolina. Issued in Furtherance of Cooperative Extension Work in Agriculture and Home Economics
http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC2506.htm
http://www.e-bug.net/bug/redbugs.shtml
Nebraska Cooperative Extension
http://ianrpubs.unl.edu/insects/nf269.htm
Innvista website
http://www.innvista.com/health/microbes/parasite/ectopar.htm
Texas Cooperative Extension
http://insects.tamu.edu/fieldguide/chiggers.html
http://insects.tamu.edu/fieldguide/cimg370.html
Iowa State Entomology site
http://www.ipm.iastate.edu/ipm/iiin/tlonesta.html
North Carolina State University
http://ipm.ncsu.edu/AG268/html/chiggers.htm
http://ipm.ncsu.edu/current_ipm/98PestNews/98News19/structur.html
University of Nebraska Cooperative Extension
http://lancaster.unl.edu/enviro/pest/factsheets/072-01.pdf
Florida State University: FLUORESCENCE DIGITAL IMAGE GALLERY
http://www.microscopy.fsu.edu/primer/techniques/fluorescence/gallery/lonestartick.html
Southern Illinois University
http://www.siu.edu/~shp/WebEd/Ticks.htm
Urban Pest Control Research Center
http://www.upcrc.com/guides/houseid/lonetick.htm
Monmouth County (NJ) Mosquito Commission
http://www.visitmonmouth.com/06270_mcmec/startick.html
Acari: Mites
Collection of high-quality electron micrographs of plant-feeding mites and bee mites, from the U.S. National Mite Collection (USDA).
http://www.sel.barc.usda.gov/acari/frames/mites.html
Acari: The Mites
Characteristics, taxonomy, and phylogenetic relationships of the Acari, including mites and ticks. By David Evans Walter, Jerry Krantz, and Evert Lindquist, from The Tree of Life project.
http://tolweb.org/tree?group=Acari&contgroup=Arachnida
Chiggers
Brief article about the identification, biology, and control of chiggers found in Texas, as well as treatment for chigger bites.
http://entowww.tamu.edu/extension/bulletins/L-1223.html
Chiggers
Illustrated fact sheet from Ohio State University.
http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2100.html
Classification of Ticks
Ihttp://members.ozemail.com.au/~norbertf/identification.htm
Iowa Insect Notes: American Dog Tick
About Dermacentor variabilis and its control, with photographs illustrating the life stages of this and other ticks found in the region, including deer tick (Ixodes scapularis) and lone star tick (Amblyomma americanum).
http://www.ent.iastate.edu/ipm/iiin/tamerican.html
Iowa State's Deer Tick Image Gallery
Photographs and QuickTime movies of several tick species of North America.
http://www.ent.iastate.edu/imagegal/ticks/
Itchy Chiggers
University of Nebraska Cooperative Extension factsheet and audio message on the biology and control of chiggers, which are the larvae of the harvest mite, Trombicula alfreddugesi.
http://www.ianr.unl.edu/ianr/lanco/enviro/pest/factsheets/008-96.htm
Lyme Disease and Tick Management
University of Nebraska Cooperative Extension factsheet and audio on ticks and Lyme disease, including images of several tick species and life stages.
http://www.ianr.unl.edu/ianr/lanco/enviro/pest/factsheets/001-95.htm
Mite Image Gallery
SEM images and text of mites by David Walter, University of Queensland, Australia.
http://www.uq.edu.au/entomology/mite/mitetxt.html
Mites - Olfaction, Electrophysiology, Neurobiology
Phenotypic and genetic variation in behavioral and sensory response of predatory mites (Phytoseiulus persimilis) to herbivore-induced plant volatiles
http://www.bio.uva.nl/onderzoek/popbio/mvtilborg/index.html
Rhipicephalus sanguineus
Images of the brown dog tick.
http://www.biosci.ohio-state.edu/~parasite/rhipicephalus.html
Scrub Itch Mite or Chigger
Image of a member of the family Trombiculidae.
http://www.uq.edu.au/entomology/mite/chig.html
Tick Biology
Information and images covering the life cycles and biology of the Ixodidae (hard ticks) and Argasidae (soft ticks).
http://entomology.ucdavis.edu/faculty/rbkimsey/tickbio.html
Tick Images
Sketches, photos, size comparison, and morphological descriptions of ticks found in Rhode Island, including blacklegged (deer) tick, Ixodes scapularis; American dog tick, Dermacentor variabilis; and lone star tick, Amblyomma americanum.
http://www.riaes.org/resources/ticklab/ticks.html
 
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