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  1. bobpbx

    DEP Announces Virtual Public Meeting to Launch Wharton State Forest Visitor and Vehicle Use Survey

    By the way, wasn't there a planned closure map crafted by the Wharton Superintendant that was worse for us, well before the Pinelands Commission helped make the amalgamated map?
  2. bobpbx

    DEP Announces Virtual Public Meeting to Launch Wharton State Forest Visitor and Vehicle Use Survey

    Boyd, on that amalgamated topo you posted, many trails created by some method and used over the years are not shown. That's why the DEP took the position that they should not be there at all. And some biologists and scientists (both state and private), who study the flora and fauna, gave them...
  3. bobpbx

    DEP Announces Virtual Public Meeting to Launch Wharton State Forest Visitor and Vehicle Use Survey

    Jason, I don't know about the rest of the people on this forum, but reading this gives me a kind of out of body experience; like I can't figure you out or your game plan after all these years of you trying to convince us the 2015 map was good. Are you having second thoughts? Anyway, in my...
  4. bobpbx

    DEP Announces Virtual Public Meeting to Launch Wharton State Forest Visitor and Vehicle Use Survey

    How's this: There is some opposition to these maps, such as from people who live in the pines and have enjoyed these roads for decades with their friends and family. They use them to go to great spots in the forest for hunting, swimming, hiking, and communing with nature. They oppose the maps...
  5. bobpbx

    DEP Announces Virtual Public Meeting to Launch Wharton State Forest Visitor and Vehicle Use Survey

    You'd have to dig 250 feet deep under the landfill to see mine. Sure he wrote it, he was inciting his mob.
  6. bobpbx

    Music for the day

    Love in the afternoon. I always liked the concept. Jerry Garcia created the 'Jerry Garcia Band' aside from the Dead. The one and only album made was "Cats under the Stars". I've always liked this song on that album.
  7. bobpbx

    DEP Announces Virtual Public Meeting to Launch Wharton State Forest Visitor and Vehicle Use Survey

    Push back and claw back. That is what should happen. I can't do it, as you know my position. But someone should lead a movement that will select at least 15 to 30 of the planned roads to be closed and promote them as roads that should remain open because they are wide enough to use, are actually...
  8. bobpbx

    DEP Announces Virtual Public Meeting to Launch Wharton State Forest Visitor and Vehicle Use Survey

    Disingenuous to the extreme. Does not mention at all the good people of the forest who have been driving the open roads for decades: "Unfortunately, there is some opposition to these common-sense maps, such as small groups of off-road vehicle users and certain other interests that have been...
  9. bobpbx

    Gun Club Deeds And Other Places

    Yes, Jackson Mills, on page 79 in More Forgotten Towns, there is a photo of an oil contraption (derrick?).
  10. bobpbx

    DEP Announces Virtual Public Meeting to Launch Wharton State Forest Visitor and Vehicle Use Survey

    No, they aren't. Notice in the words it's advice: "For your safety PLEASE stay on the trails....". I'm sure they don't have a regulation against going off trail.
  11. bobpbx

    Introducing my 2023 traditional USGS-style topo

    Sometimes, in things like that Boyd, one guy at the top can set the tone for what must be done. You remember the KISS principle, right? I worked for the Navy over 35 years, and they had a writing manual that was very good at suggesting writers cut out the bull and unecessary stuff.
  12. bobpbx

    DEP Announces Virtual Public Meeting to Launch Wharton State Forest Visitor and Vehicle Use Survey

    NJ Spotlight is readable. I just LUV Jason's comment in this one: "I think it's a great start"...
  13. bobpbx

    Dr. Greene

    Thanks Jeff, but Smoke_jumper actually nailed it down. For some reason his posts have dissapeared from this thread, but you can see part of them in my reply at #9 on the first page.
  14. bobpbx

    Xfinity Cable Service Increase

    Thanks Tim, now I understand.
  15. bobpbx

    Xfinity Cable Service Increase

    Tim, you don't say whether what you described is a good thing or a bad thing.
  16. bobpbx

    Xfinity Cable Service Increase

    I wrote to the board of public utilities. I got this, which tells me something I didn't know. Dear Mr. Moyer, Thank you for writing the Board of Public Utilities (Board), Office of Cable Television and Telecommunications (OCTV&T) concerning Xfinity monopolizing Barnegat. Competition in the...
  17. bobpbx

    Xfinity Cable Service Increase

    Do you watch the phillies and cable news, or is that free on the firestick
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