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On second thought, I don't think that is it. The sign I saw said it was planted somtime in the '60's...I think. Jeff

I think I am probably wrong, but is that the sign I was telling you about here. http://maps.njpinebarrens.com/#lat=39.92683524930321&lng=-74.47195172309875&z=17&type=nj2007&gpx= I've gone back looking for the sign again and couldn't find it.

Bob definitely recognized immedietly on location.

I remember that, you (Bob) were thinking that is where Bill took a pic right? I think I over heard you saying that.

Why don't you see them being able to stay around? and where would they go to? They used to be indigenuious to the pines so why would they have trouble living here now? There is plenty of room compared to North Jersey. Perhaps they have moved to more suburbian areas since they are known for...

That is so funny that you mention that. I was headed up 206 and thought I saw a very low shooting star, then figured it must have been a firework. Is that what we are seeing meteors?

http://nj.gov/dep/fgw/pdf/bear/policy_lit/so_jersey_assessment81.pdf If this was implemented. Why did the black bear population not florish. Perhaps it was never implemented. Jeff

right along the lines of the areas you have already visited, you ought to visit the old washington tavern on iron pipe road. Mount also, though there are less remaining ruins (a celler hole and clearing.) If you search the ghost towns and forgotten places area of the forums you are sure to get...

Thanks Glo. That last shot...in the failing light I agree with you, "beautifully mysterious. A 1/2 hour later and it would have just been downright creepy. Jeff

Ahhhh, good. That was the reaction I was going for!

Thanks for the ID on the sedge Bob!

Got out in the woods for a bit today. Here is an old bog I fish. this time I visited it from the oppisite end of my usual approach. It is tucked away pretty good and most people pass it by without ever knowning it is there. No deep holes on this side and I walked to the middle of bog...

i missed that in my old thread. That still would have put us in the correct location that we were looking. That iron would be completely invisable with the water as high as it is. I am confident that a return trip during low water levels will reveal much. Jeff

Back on Labor Day of '08 I visited an Ore Pond deep in Wharton State forest. While there I discovered slag in, near by, Deep Run and an old cord road. Believeing the cord road lead to the nearby Batsto river where the bog iron was loaded on barges to be shipped down to Batsto furnance, I tried...

Nice report, Guy. It seems that there is always more to discover a learn.

Pretty good call on the beaver, Al. I am surprised not to see the tail drag between the prints though. Perhaps the photos just didn't capture that. I've seen their prints, in the mud, I'm not used to seeing them in sugar sand. Jeff

I have the same GPS and can attest to the size being about 4 1/2". those tracks are freaking huge!!!! I'm kind of thinking bear with the understanding that the tracks have been somewhat compromised from weather and age. That or the Jersey Devil's been hanging back there.:jd: Jeff

Cool! So much different than the pines. I really have to get down there. I have some inlaw cousins down that way. They make their own moonshine too. Jeff

Not PB related but how much do you want to bet this suba diver needed to change of pants after this. http://www.comcast.net/video/diver-comes-facetoteeth-with-shark/1626550697